Conservation of Energy bullet of mass

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A bullet of mass m is fired at a velocity of 50 m/s and strikes a bob of mass 3m, which is suspended by a 3.3 m string, at the peak of its trajectory. The bullet's kinetic energy is converted into gravitational potential energy of the combined bullet-bob system. The correct angle x for the bullet's trajectory is determined to be 30 degrees, as derived from the equation 0.5m(50cosx)^2 = 4mg*3.3*(1+sin30). The discussion clarifies that during the collision, momentum is conserved while mechanical energy is conserved post-collision.

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Homework Statement


A bullet of mass m is fired with a velocity of 50m/s at an angle x. At the top of its trajectory it hits a bob of mass 3m hanging by a string 3.3 m long and gets imbedded in it. The string rotates by an angle of 120 degrees.

Find x and the coordinates of the bob wrt the projectile.


The Attempt at a Solution



The bullet hits the bob with velocite 50 cosx. The kinetic energy of the bullet gets converted into the gravitational potential energy of the bob and the bullet.

0.5m(50cosx)^2= 4mg*3.3*(1+sin30)
cosx=0.4

The answer, however, is 30 degrees. I used cosx=0.4 to solve the second part, but needless to say, that answer didnt match either.

What did I do wrong? Or is the given answer incorrect?
 
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I have no idea what "bob wrt the projectile" means, and so I am not really sure what you did wrong or what you were trying to solve. However, in your energy equation it looks like you are doing
E_i = E_f
K_i + U_i = K_f + U_f
K_i = U_f

I agree with the initial kinetic, but it looks to me like you calculated the height the wrong for your potential.
 
chaoseverlasting said:
The bullet hits the bob with velocite 50 cosx.
Good.
The kinetic energy of the bullet gets converted into the gravitational potential energy of the bob and the bullet.
Careful! Is energy conserved during the collision of bullet with bob?
 
Isnt the energy conserved? And bob wrt projectile means that the origin is at the point where the projectile was launched. We have to find the position of the bob w.r.t that origin.
 
chaoseverlasting said:
Isnt the energy conserved?

Only momentum is conserved, not energy.
 
chaoseverlasting said:
Isnt the energy conserved?
As e(ho0n3 has stated, during the collision only momentum is conserved. But after the collision, the mechanical energy of the "bullet+bob" system is conserved. Both parts are needed to solve this problem.
 

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