Conservation of energy (Finding Velocity)

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The problem involves a 100kg crate subjected to a variable force and requires determining its velocity after a specified time. The context includes concepts from mechanics, specifically conservation of energy and momentum, as well as the effects of friction.

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Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore different methods for solving the problem, including energy conservation and momentum considerations. Questions arise regarding the calculation of distance and the treatment of forces, particularly the variable force and friction.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively engaging with the problem, with some offering calculations and others questioning the assumptions made, such as the treatment of friction and the integration of the force over time. There is a recognition of the need to clarify the impulse related to the force P.

Contextual Notes

There are discussions about the assumptions made regarding the forces acting on the crate, including the coefficient of friction and the gravitational effects. The problem also involves a time-dependent force, which complicates the calculations.

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Homework Statement



The 100kg crate shown in Fig. 1 is acted upon by a force having a variable magnitude
P = 20t N, where t is in seconds. Determine the crates’ velocity 2 seconds after P has
been applied. The initial velocity is v1=3m/s down the plane, and the coefficient of
kinetic friction between the crate and the plane is μk = 0.3. (60 points)
Hint) For easy calculation, the gravitational acceleration (g) is assumed 10m/s2

Homework Equations


T1 + U1-2 = T2
T kinetic energy
U potential Energy

The Attempt at a Solution


I am having problem finding the distance S ?
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Sam Fred said:
I am having problem finding the distance S ?
Think in terms of momentum instead of energy.
 
Aha ...
mv1 + P t (dlta t) + mg sin 30 (dlta t) - mg cos 30 Mk (dlta t) = mv2
30 + 80 + 1000 + 519.6 = 100 v2
v2 = 5.9 m/s
 
Sam Fred said:
Aha ...
mv1 + P t (dlta t) + mg sin 30 (dlta t) - mg cos 30 Mk (dlta t) = mv2
30 + 80 + 1000 + 519.6 = 100 v2
v2 = 5.9 m/s
Double check the first two terms.
 
300 + 80 + 1000 - 519.6 = 100 v2
v2 = 8.6 m/s
Shouldn't the friction be negative and what about the P , It is given P = 20 t , shouldn't i multiply it by t=2 twice ??
 
Sam Fred said:
Shouldn't the friction be negative
Yes.

and what about the P , It is given P = 20 t , shouldn't i multiply it by t=2 twice ??
Since the force P is a function of time, you'll need to integrate.
 
I was wrong about P . P = 20 t → Impulse = ∫ p dt = 20 t2 /2
Thus P = 20 (4) / 2 = 40 N

But isn't the friction impulse negative and thus we get

300 + 40 + 1000 - 519.6 = 100 v2
v2 =8.2 m/s ?
 
Sam Fred said:
I was wrong about P . P = 20 t → Impulse = ∫ p dt = 20 t2 /2
Thus P = 20 (4) / 2 = 40 N

But isn't the friction impulse negative and thus we get

300 + 40 + 1000 - 519.6 = 100 v2
v2 =8.2 m/s ?
Good!
 
Thanks ...
 

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