Conservation of Energy roller-coaster car

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The discussion revolves around a roller-coaster car's motion as it descends a valley and climbs a hill, focusing on the conservation of energy principles. Participants are exploring the minimum speed required for the car to successfully navigate the hill, considering gravitational potential energy and kinetic energy without the influence of friction or air resistance.

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  • Participants discuss the application of energy conservation equations, questioning whether to use multiple equations due to the different heights involved. There is also exploration of simplifying the problem into a single equation relating initial and final energies.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants sharing their approaches and calculations. Some guidance has been offered regarding the use of energy equations, but there is no consensus on the correctness of the calculations presented, as one participant expresses uncertainty about their result.

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Participants are working under the assumption that there are no external forces acting on the system, and they are navigating the complexities of applying conservation of energy principles to a scenario with varying heights.

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A single roller-coaster car is moving with speed v0 on the first section of track when it descends a 4.1-m-deep valley, then climbs to the top of a hill that is 4.6 m above the first section of track. Assume any effects of friction or of air resistance are negligible.

(a) What is the minimum speed v0 required if the car is to travel beyond the top of the hill?

Since there is no friction or air resistance then all the energy is conserved.
There is no external work so the equation is:
Ui + Ki = Uf + Kf

H1 = 4.1m
H2 = 4.6m
If I take y=0 on the first section of track.

Would I need to do the equation twice since there are two Heights involved?
Like Ui = 0 and Uf be MG(-H1)

2nd equation
Ui = MG(-H1) and Uf be MG(H2)
 
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maniacp08 said:
A single roller-coaster car is moving with speed v0 on the first section of track when it descends a 4.1-m-deep valley, then climbs to the top of a hill that is 4.6 m above the first section of track. Assume any effects of friction or of air resistance are negligible.

(a) What is the minimum speed v0 required if the car is to travel beyond the top of the hill?

Since there is no friction or air resistance then all the energy is conserved.
There is no external work so the equation is:
Ui + Ki = Uf + Kf

H1 = 4.1m
H2 = 4.6m
If I take y=0 on the first section of track.

Would I need to do the equation twice since there are two Heights involved?
Like Ui = 0 and Uf be MG(-H1)

2nd equation
Ui = MG(-H1) and Uf be MG(H2)

You can do the 2 equations, but note that it might as well be just the one that calculates the
KE = 1/2mv2 = m*g*(H2 - Ho) = Increase in PE
 
So I can do this in one equation?
Ui + Ki = Uf + Kf
0 + 1/2 M * Vi^2 = m*g*(H2 - H1) + 0

1/2 M * Vi^2 = m*g*(H2 - H1)
= Vi^2 = 9.81
Vi = square root of 9.81 = 3.1 m/s?

This answer is wrong tho. Anything I did wrong?
 
Can someone help me on this one?
 

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