Conservation of Mechanical energy

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The problem involves a chain positioned on a table, with part of it hanging off the edge. The task is to determine the work required to pull the hanging section back onto the table, utilizing concepts from mechanics and energy conservation.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss the setup of the integral needed to calculate the work done, with some attempting to express potential energy in relation to the displacement of chain segments. Questions arise about how to effectively set up the integral and the implications of segmenting the chain.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different ways to express the potential energy of the chain segments and how to integrate this over the displaced portion. There is no explicit consensus yet, but several productive lines of reasoning are being examined.

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Participants are considering the physical properties of the chain, such as its length and weight, and how these factors influence the calculation of work. There is an emphasis on understanding the relationship between the segments of the chain and their respective displacements.

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1.A chain on top of a table is stretched out in a straight line perpendicular to the table's edge with one fourth of its length L hanging over the side. How much work is required to pull the hanging section of the chain back into the table. (hint: divide the hanging part into segments of length dy)
2. W = Ui - Uf ; Total energy = U + K ; F(x) = -dU/dx
3. I can't figure out how to set up the integral..
 
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An integral is essentially like doing a lot of addition. Think for example that each chain link is 0.05 m long, and weighs 0.1 kg. Assume five links are hanging off the edge.

Think about each chain link is being pulled up discretely. The first link must be moved 0.05m, the second must be moved 0.1m, the third must be moved 0.15m, etc. How much potential energy does each individual link hold?

The integral would essentially represent having links that are infinitely small, but cover that same distance. Does that held at all?
 
In other words, what you need is an expression for the potential energy of a chain segment in terms of the displacement of that chain segment (a segment hanging 5 inches down would have displacement of 5 inches).

Now, integrate that over the entire portion of the chain which is displaced.
 
So the equation would be int( mgh dh) from zero to h ?
 
where h= L/4
 

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