Conservation of momentum - Brakes

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The discussion centers on the conservation of momentum in the context of a car weighing 1000 kg that decelerates from 3 m/s to a stop. It is established that while the momentum of the car is not conserved due to the external braking force acting on it, the kinetic energy is transformed into heat energy. The conversation highlights the importance of defining the system appropriately, as the momentum can be conserved within a closed system, but external forces, such as braking, disrupt this conservation. The interaction between the car's wheels and brake pads is also noted, emphasizing the transfer of momentum and energy during braking.

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  • Understanding of basic physics concepts, particularly momentum and kinetic energy.
  • Familiarity with Newton's laws of motion.
  • Knowledge of energy transformation processes, specifically heat energy.
  • Ability to analyze systems and define internal vs. external forces.
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  • Study the principles of momentum conservation in closed systems.
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  • Explore the effects of external forces on momentum, particularly in braking scenarios.
  • Investigate the role of torque in rotational dynamics, especially in relation to braking systems.
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Not sure where to post this as it isn't actually homework, all variables are made up.

Homework Statement



A car, weighing 1000kg and moving at 3m/s puts it's breaks on and slows down to a stop. What happens to the momentum?

Homework Equations



p=mv

The Attempt at a Solution



Momentum is transferred into brakes as "Heat energy" where the momentum of each molecule (as it moves because of the heat energy) balances the system.
 
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Hi TSail, welcome to PF!

The momentum of a given "system" is always conserved, but how you choose to define that system determines which forces are classified as "internal" and which forces are classified as "external." In this case if you take the system to be just the body of the car (for simplicity), then: without worrying about the mechanical details of how the braking force is applied, you can represent this braking force as an external force that acts on the car body in the direction opposite to its motion. Since the car body has a net external force acting on it, its momentum is not conserved.

It certainly does make sense to talk about the car's kinetic energy being transformed into heat energy for the reasons you described.

I suppose if you really did want to worry about the details, then you could describe the system as consisting of two parts: the wheels of the car, and the brake pads. The brake pads apply a braking torque to the wheels, reducing their angular momentum in the process. There should be an equal and opposite torque applied by the wheels to the brake pads. Of course, the brake pads are rigidly attached to other things, meaning that other external torques will arise that will prevent the brake pads (or indeed, the entire body of the car) from developing a non-zero angular momentum and starting to spin!
 
TSail said:
What happens to the momentum?

Depending on whether the car was moving east or west, day became longer or shorter.
 

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