Conservation of Momentum in an Isolated System: A Derivation

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The discussion revolves around deriving the law of conservation of momentum for an isolated system with two interacting particles, referencing Newton's laws of motion.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the application of Newton's second and third laws to derive the conservation of momentum, with some expressing confusion about the process and seeking examples. Questions arise about combining forces and the implications of forces during particle collisions.

Discussion Status

Some participants are exploring different interpretations of Newton's laws and their application to the problem. Guidance has been offered regarding the use of an alternative form of Newton's second law related to momentum change, but no consensus has been reached on the derivation process.

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Participants are working within the constraints of a homework assignment, which may limit the information and methods they can discuss. There is an emphasis on understanding the foundational concepts rather than arriving at a complete solution.

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Homework Statement



Derive a law of conservation of momentum for an isolated system consisting of two interacting particles.

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It says that "The law is derived by applying Newton's second law to each particle and Newton's third law to the system."

The Attempt at a Solution



I don't understand this at all... if you could explain me with an example, that would be so great...
 
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Newtons second law:

\overrightarrow{F}\,=\,\overrightarrow{m}\,a

Newtons third law:

"Whenever A exerts a force on B, B simultaneously exerts a force on A with the same magnitude in the opposite direction." - "[URL

What would you do to combine the forces of two particles?
 
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well, does that mean

-ma=ma for representing the situation where two particles collide?

but i still don't understand how to proceed tp get

initial total momentum =final total momentum
 
I think that for this problem it's easier to use the other version of Newtons second law:
F = dp/dt (change in momentum)*
Because of Newtons second law the total force inside a system will stay 0, so what does that say about the total change in momentum?
*From this you can derive F = ma:
F = dp/dt = d(mv)/dt = mdv/dt = ma
 
all right, I think I got it. Thanx!
 

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