Conservation of momentum is valid here?

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The discussion centers on the principle of conservation of momentum in the context of a car coming to a stop. It is established that momentum is not conserved during this process due to the presence of external forces, such as friction from the road and braking forces. Before stopping, the car has a non-zero momentum, which becomes zero after stopping. However, when considering the entire car-earth system, momentum is conserved overall, as the forces acting on the car are external to the car itself.

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Question says" When a car comes to a normal stop its momentum is not conserved. Does this violate the principle of conservation of momentum? Explain. What happens to the car's kinetic energy?"

My question is why momentum is not conserved when a car comes to a normal stop?
 
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What is the momentum before and what is the momentum after the stop?
 
Before stop the momentum is decreasing and after the stop it is zero.
 
Then what about the principle of conservation of momentum?
 
Yes, what about it? What are your thoughts?
 
Momentum is conserved when no external force acts on the system. When the car comes to normal stop, the external force from the road or from the brake acts on the car to stop. Hence, the conservation of principle is not valid in this process. Am I right.
 
And the kinetic energy of the car is lost as heat to the car and the surrounding.
 
Mohammed Shoaib said:
Momentum is conserved when no external force acts on the system. When the car comes to normal stop, the external force from the road or from the brake acts on the car to stop. Hence, the conservation of principle is not valid in this process. Am I right.
And if you consider the entire car-earth system?
 
Then momentum is conserved. Is it not?
 
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It sounds like you got it.
 
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Mohammed Shoaib said:
Then momentum is conserved. Is it not?
Yes, it should be. Yet the car momentum after is zero and the one before non zero.

This is a conundrum for many people who are just learning conservation of momentum.
 
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Orodruin said:
Yes, it should be. Yet the car momentum after is zero and the one before non zero.

This is a conundrum for many people who are just learning conservation of momentum.
Thanks for your kind help.
 

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