Construct field tensor an dual tensor

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The discussion revolves around constructing the electromagnetic field tensor and its dual for a straight wire carrying charge density along the z-axis, with the charge moving in the +z direction. Participants are attempting to derive the electric and magnetic fields at a specific point in space.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants are discussing the derivation of the electric field E and magnetic field B, questioning the reasoning behind their specific forms and the use of the right-hand rule. There is also an exploration of the field tensor and how to apply Lorentz transformations to find the fields in a moving frame.

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Some participants have provided insights into constructing the field tensor and applying boosts, while others express confusion about the steps involved and the underlying concepts. There is a mix of attempts to clarify the mathematical relationships and the physical interpretations of the fields.

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Participants mention a lack of familiarity with the chapter content and express urgency due to an upcoming exam. There are indications of missing foundational knowledge that may be affecting their understanding of the problem.

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Homework Statement


straight wire along z axis carries charge density [tex]\lambda[/tex] traveling in +z direction at speed v. construct field tenor and dual at point (x,0,0_


Homework Equations


E=(2[tex]\lambda[/tex] /4[tex]\pi[/tex][tex]\epsilon[/tex]o r)r^
B=([tex]\mu[/tex]o I/2[tex]\pi[/tex]r)[tex]\phi[/tex]^


The Attempt at a Solution


I just don't get how they find the E and B they got
E=[tex]\lambda[/tex] /2[tex]\pi[/tex][tex]\epsilon[/tex]o x)x^
B=([tex]\mu[/tex]o [tex]\lambda[/tex]V/2[tex]\pi[/tex]x)y^
I know to find r it would be distance to the point, well i thought it would be r=(x2+z2)1/2, but they just got x
also why is E in x^ and b in y^ does it have to do with the right hand rule?
thanks
 
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Did you construct the field tensor [itex]F^{\mu\nu}[/itex]. Then simply give it a boost in the +z direction, and read of E and B from there. If you've done that, you should get the right answer (i have not verified the result from the book that you've mentioned)

Please show your steps and I'll inspect them.
 
The field tensor formula is
f= |0 Ex/c Ey/c Ez/c
|-Ex/c 0 Bz -By
| -Ey/c -Bz 0 BX
...
So first I would need to find what Ex then Ey than Ez ect correct?
So the charge is moving on the Z and trying the find tensor at some point on x axis.
Not sure what to do. Don't really get what you mean by "Then simply give it a boost in the +z direction, and read of E and B from there" Didnt really study this chapter, but we only need to know this for the final. Going to try to figure it out later
the answer is F=[tex]\mu[/tex]o[tex]\lambda[/tex]/2[tex]\pi[/tex]x(0 c 0 0)
(-c 0 0-v)
(0 0 00)
(0 v 0 0)
 
No, see this is what we do.

We imagine a system with a line charge in which the charge DOES NOT MOVE. Find its field strength tensor, which is easy.

Then we boost the system in the +z system, effecting a lorentz transformation on the tensor [tex]F^{\mu\nu}[/tex]. We now have a new F. But since F is a tensor, it must be of the same form as before. From its components we simple read out [tex]E_x,E_y,E_z,B_x,B_y,B_z[/tex]
 
hmm ok thanks for info going to try it later tonight, ill post what i get thanks
 
ok still kind of lost but here is what i found. so the components of B and E are Bij=(dAj/dXi)-dAi/dXj = diAj-djAi

Ei=-[tex]\phi[/tex]/dxi- dAi/dT =-di[tex]\phi[/tex] -dtAi
than
A[tex]\mu[/tex]=([tex]\phi[/tex]-cA)
then the tensor =

F=dAv/dx[tex]\mu[/tex]-dA[tex]\mu[/tex]/dXv=d[tex]\mu[/tex] Av-dvA[tex]\mu[/tex]than from this they make a matrix
Is this corrent? well i am completely lost lol Final is tomorrow and i have a feeling this will be one of the problems. Can you show me how to do it or know any websites? I looked and could not find any.
btw is the A the Retarded potential?
thanks
 

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