Contact Forces with a Massless String

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The discussion revolves around a physics problem involving three blocks of equal mass on a rough ramp, connected by a massless string, with an upward force applied to the top block. Participants are tasked with calculating the acceleration of the system while considering the effects of tension and friction.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the importance of free body diagrams and the application of Newton's second law. There is a focus on isolating acceleration and the complexities introduced by tension in the strings. Some participants express uncertainty about their diagrams and seek comparisons to clarify their understanding.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants sharing their attempts and seeking feedback on their free body diagrams. There is recognition of potential errors in calculations due to diagram inaccuracies, and guidance is being offered to help clarify these issues.

Contextual Notes

Participants are working under the constraints of homework rules, which may limit the amount of direct assistance they can receive. The need for accurate free body diagrams is emphasized as critical to solving the problem correctly.

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Homework Statement


Three blocks of equal mass (m = 0.88kg) are placed in a row onto a rough ramp (μ=0.77) whose angle of inclination is 35 (degrees). Each block is connected to the other by a massless string. Suppose you pull upwards on the top block with a force of 34.9N. Answer the following:

a)Calculate the acceleration of the system.


Homework Equations


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The Attempt at a Solution


I have already drawn a free body diagram, co-ordinate plane, and vector diagrams for each of the 3 masses. I also realize that the acceleration of the system holds true for anyone of the blocks, that is to say acceleration at m1 equals to acceleration at m2. Furthermore I also realize that all 3 masses are of equal mass.

My problem in trying to figure out the acceleration of the system in this case, would be isolating the acceleration ("a"), because there are a lot of tensions to take into account in this question.
 
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Inertialforce said:

Homework Statement


Three blocks of equal mass (m = 0.88kg) are placed in a row onto a rough ramp (μ=0.77) whose angle of inclination is 35 (degrees). Each block is connected to the other by a massless string. Suppose you pull upwards on the top block with a force of 34.9N. Answer the following:

a)Calculate the acceleration of the system.


Homework Equations


ΣFx

The Attempt at a Solution


I have already drawn a free body diagram, co-ordinate plane, and vector diagrams for each of the 3 masses. I also realize that the acceleration of the system holds true for anyone of the blocks, that is to say acceleration at m1 equals to acceleration at m2. Furthermore I also realize that all 3 masses are of equal mass.

My problem in trying to figure out the acceleration of the system in this case, would be isolating the acceleration ("a"), because there are a lot of tensions to take into account in this question.
Sounds like your on the right track. The next step would be to write down Newton's second law for each individual block, so that you end up with a system of three linear equations.
 
I found the acceleration (a= 32.2m/s (squared)) for the question but when I got it handed back to me, it said to double check my free body diagrams because there was a mistake in it. This obviously would then make my acceleration calculation incorrect. I have tried to redo my free body diagrams already but would it be possible for someone to post what they would have gotten for the free body diagram(s) so that I could compare diagrams so as to understand this question better?
 
Inertialforce said:
I found the acceleration (a= 32.2m/s (squared)) for the question but when I got it handed back to me, it said to double check my free body diagrams because there was a mistake in it. This obviously would then make my acceleration calculation incorrect. I have tried to redo my free body diagrams already but would it be possible for someone to post what they would have gotten for the free body diagram(s) so that I could compare diagrams so as to understand this question better?
Perhaps it would be better if you posted your FBD's are we could point out where you have gone wrong.
 

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