Contact manifold and Darboux's theorem

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The discussion revolves around the concept of contact manifolds and Darboux's theorem, particularly focusing on the properties of one-forms and their exterior derivatives. Participants explore the implications of rank conditions on forms and their geometric interpretations, as well as applications in thermodynamics.

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  • One participant questions the meaning of a one-form ##\theta## having a constant rank 0 for its exterior derivative ##d\theta##.
  • Another participant suggests that a rank 0 form is simply 0, while also noting that the exterior derivative of closed forms is 0.
  • There is a discussion about the notation ##(d\theta)^0## and its implications, with some participants expressing uncertainty about its meaning.
  • Participants discuss the geometric interpretation of contact structures, particularly how tangent subspaces behave along paths in contact manifolds.
  • One participant raises a question about the implications of Darboux's theorem when applied to a one-form ##\alpha## for which the 2-form ##d\alpha## has rank 0.
  • Another participant introduces the idea of using contact manifolds as models for thermodynamic systems, mentioning specific forms and their ranks in this context.
  • There is a reference to the relationship between the equations of state and Legendrian submanifolds, though participants express uncertainty about the correctness of this interpretation.

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Participants generally agree on some foundational concepts, such as the definition of rank 0 forms. However, there are multiple competing views regarding the implications of these definitions and the application of Darboux's theorem, indicating that the discussion remains unresolved.

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Some participants note potential typos in external references, such as Wikipedia, which may affect the understanding of the discussed concepts. There are also unresolved questions regarding the implications of rank conditions on forms and their applications in specific contexts.

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This discussion may be useful for those studying contact geometry, differential forms, and their applications in physics, particularly in thermodynamics and geometric structures on manifolds.

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Contact manifold and Darboux's theorem for one-form ##\theta## such that ##d\theta## is a 2-form with constant rank 0
Hi, I'm studying the concept of contact manifold -- Contact geometry
A related theorem is Darboux's theorem for one-forms -- Darboux theorem

In the particular case of one-form ##\theta \neq 0## such that ##d\theta## has constant rank 0 then if ##\theta \wedge (d\theta)^0 \neq 0## there exists a local coordinate chart such that ##\theta=dx_1##.

My question is: what does it mean ##d\theta## has rank 0 ? Thanks.
 
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I suspect that it means to be a scalar.
 
cianfa72 said:
TL;DR Summary: Contact manifold and Darboux's theorem for one-form ##\theta## such that ##d\theta## is a 2-form with constant rank 0

Hi, I'm studying the concept of contact manifold -- Contact geometry
A related theorem is Darboux's theorem for one-forms -- Darboux theorem

In the particular case of one-form ##\theta \neq 0## such that ##d\theta## has constant rank 0 then if ##\theta \wedge (d\theta)^0 \neq 0## there exists a local coordinate chart such that ##\theta=dx_1##.

My question is: what does it mean ##d\theta## has rank 0 ? Thanks.
My understanding is that a rank 0 form is just 0. We know that the exterior derivative of closed forms is 0, and in general ##d^2 \omega =0 ## for all forms.

Also, looking at wikipedia, the ##\neq## case only holds for ##p\gt 0##.
 
jbergman said:
My understanding is that a rank 0 form is just 0.
Yes, me too. On the other hand to me a writing of type ##(d\theta)^0## is actually indefinite. What should that mean ? Do the wedge product with itself 0 times...

jbergman said:
Also, looking at wikipedia, the ##\neq## case only holds for ##p\gt 0##.
Yes, I suspect there is a typo in Wikipedia entry in the next Frobenius's theorem section. It should hold for ##p=1##.
 
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From Wikipedia entry on Contact geometry

Standard_contact_structure.svg.png


each point in ##\mathbf R^3## has a plane associated to it by the contact structure, in this case as the kernel of the one-form dzy dx. These planes appear to twist along the y-axis. It is not integrable, as can be verified by drawing an infinitesimal square in the x-y plane, and follow the path along the one-forms. The path would not return to the same z-coordinate after one circuit.
I'm in trouble to grasp the sentence in bold. What does it mean follow a path along one circuit ? Thanks.
 
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cianfa72 said:
From Wikipedia entry on Contact geometry

View attachment 335689I'm in trouble to grasp the sentence in bold. What does it mean follow a path along one circuit ? Thanks.
I think the idea is that those planes represent tangent subspaces at each point defined by tangent vectors in the kernel of ##dz -ydx##. For instance, at ##(0,0,0)## the form would be just ##dz## so the tangent subspace lies in the ##x,y## plane.

Now draw a rectangle in the x,y plane but now when we traverse it we follow along a tangent vector in the subspace at each point. So if the plane is slanted upwards we would move up as we followed are path.

What this is saying is that if you followed a such a closed path you would end up at a different z coordinate then you started at.
 
It also says ...
In mathematics, contact geometry is the study of a geometric structure on smooth manifolds given by a hyperplane distribution in the tangent bundle satisfying a condition called 'complete non-integrability'.
And, ##(d\alpha)^0=0.##
 
fresh_42 said:
And, ##(d\alpha)^0=0.##
So the above is just a definition. I.e. ##(d\alpha)^0=0## by definition for every form ##d\alpha## ?
 
jbergman said:
What this is saying is that if you followed a such a closed path you would end up at a different z coordinate then you started at.
As closed path you mean follow the perimeter of the rectangle that is the projection on x-y plane of the path followed along a tangent vector picked at each point in the tangent (slanted) subspaces ?
 
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cianfa72 said:
As closed path you mean follow the perimeter of the rectangle that is the projection on x-y plane of the path followed along a tangent vector picked at each point in the tangent (slanted) subspaces ?
Yes. Basically you have a parametrized path, ##\gamma(t)## whose projection onto the x,y plane is a rectangle and where ##\frac{d\gamma}{dt}## is a tangent vector in the tangent subspace at each point ##\gamma(t)##.

You can't do that with a curve that stays in the xy plane. And such a curve that starts there would end up above or below it.
 
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cianfa72 said:
So the above is just a definition. I.e. ##(d\alpha)^0=0## by definition for every form ##d\alpha## ?
I saw ##(d\alpha)^k=\underbrace{d\alpha \wedge \ldots \wedge d\alpha}_{k \;times}##. So ##\displaystyle{(d\alpha)^0=\wedge_{k\in \emptyset}}\; d\alpha =\text{ neutral element }## which is zero in a an algebra.
 
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fresh_42 said:
So ##\displaystyle{(d\alpha)^0=\wedge_{k\in \emptyset}}\; d\alpha =\text{ neutral element }## which is zero in an algebra.
On the field of reals the rank of a 2-form ##d\alpha## is ##p## if and only if ##(d\alpha)^p \neq 0## and ##(d\alpha)^{p+1}=0##.

So what is the real content of Darboux's theorem for a one-form ##\alpha## such that the 2-form ##d\alpha## has rank ##p=0## ?
 
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BTW Contact manifolds can be used as a model for thermodynamic systems. In particular if we consider two couples of conjugate variables we get a 5D contact manifold -- see how-exactly-is-the-formalism-of-thermodynamics-based-on-contact-geometry

On that manifold is defined a one-form ##\alpha \neq 0## such that ##d\alpha## has rank ##2##, indeed ##2\cdot 2 + 1 = 5##. Thanks to Darboux' theorem we get $$\alpha=dU -TdS + pdV$$
The equation of state of a substance/system is actually represented by a Legendrian submanifold of dimension 2. So there are 3 equations between the 5 state variables ##(U,T,S,p,V)## in order to define a 2d (immersed/embedded) submanifold.

Is the above correct ? Thanks.
 
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cianfa72 said:
BTW Contact manifolds can be used as a model for thermodynamic systems. In particular if we consider two couples of conjugate variables we get a 5D contact manifold -- see how-exactly-is-the-formalism-of-thermodynamics-based-on-contact-geometry

On that manifold is defined a one-form ##\alpha \neq 0## such that ##d\alpha## has rank ##2##, indeed ##2\cdot 2 + 1 = 5##. Thanks to Darboux' theorem we get $$\alpha=dU -TdS + pdV$$
The equation of state of a substance/system is actually represented by a Legendrian submanifold of dimension 2. So there are 3 equations between the 5 state variables ##(U,T,S,p,V)## in order to define a 2d (immersed/embedded) submanifold.

Is the above correct ? Thanks.
No idea, but the linked reference looks interesting. Thanks for sharing.
 
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