Discussion Overview
The discussion centers on the nature of continuous and discrete eigenstates in quantum mechanics, particularly focusing on the scalar product between these two types of eigenstates. Participants explore theoretical implications, mathematical definitions, and the orthogonality of states within different Hilbert spaces.
Discussion Character
- Debate/contested
- Technical explanation
- Mathematical reasoning
Main Points Raised
- Some participants assert that eigenvectors of discrete eigenvalues are orthogonal in the "Kronecker sense," while those of continuous eigenvalues are orthogonal in the "Dirac sense." They question the scalar product between continuous and discrete eigenstates.
- One participant claims there is no real scalar product in the space where continuous eigenstates exist, suggesting that the scalar product between a continuous eigenstate and a discrete eigenstate is zero.
- Another participant argues that while the mathematical expression for the scalar product can be made rigorous, it does not define a scalar product in the traditional sense.
- Some participants discuss the physical Hilbert space as a direct sum of spaces spanned by bound and scattering states, with claims about the orthogonality of superpositions of these states.
- There is a contention regarding the nature of pure scattering states, with one participant stating that they do not reside in the original Hilbert space but in an extension of its dual space.
- Another participant challenges the validity of the concept of eigenvectors corresponding to continuous eigenvalues, referencing the spectral theorem for noncompact operators.
- One participant mentions that eigenstates for the continuum are well-defined in the context of rigged Hilbert spaces.
Areas of Agreement / Disagreement
Participants express differing views on the existence and nature of scalar products between continuous and discrete eigenstates. There is no consensus on whether such scalar products can be defined or what their implications are.
Contextual Notes
Participants highlight limitations in understanding the mathematical framework surrounding continuous eigenstates and the implications of different Hilbert spaces. The discussion reflects varying levels of familiarity with advanced quantum mechanics concepts.