Continuous mapping and fixed point

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the properties of continuous mappings in complete metric spaces, specifically focusing on the existence and uniqueness of fixed points for a mapping \( T \) when \( T^k \) is a contraction mapping. Participants explore the implications of this property and clarify the mathematical reasoning behind certain steps in the proof.

Discussion Character

  • Technical explanation
  • Conceptual clarification
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants assert that if \( T^k \) is a contraction mapping, then \( T \) has a unique fixed point in the complete metric space \( X \).
  • One participant questions the step in the proof where \( u = \lim_{{n}\to{\infty}}({T}^{k})^nT{x}_{0} \) is shown to equal \( T\lim_{{n}\to{\infty}}({T}^{k})^n{x}_{0} \), seeking clarification on the reasoning.
  • Another participant explains that because \( T^k \) is a contraction, the limit holds for any \( y \in X \), particularly for \( y = T{x}_{0} \).
  • There is a discussion about the commutativity of powers of \( T \), with some participants asserting that \( (T^k)^n T = T (T^k)^n \) holds due to the associative property of function composition.
  • One participant expresses confusion regarding the interpretation of \( T^k \) as a composite function rather than an exponentiation, prompting further clarification on the notation and its implications.
  • Another participant confirms that \( T^k \) indeed refers to the composition of \( T \) with itself \( k \) times, reinforcing the understanding of the notation used.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the existence of a unique fixed point under the given conditions, but there are differing views on the interpretation of the notation and the reasoning behind certain mathematical steps, particularly regarding the commutativity of powers of \( T \) and the nature of \( T^k \).

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights potential misunderstandings regarding the notation and properties of function composition, as well as the assumptions underlying the proof steps. There is no resolution on the interpretation of the notation or the specific reasoning behind the commutativity claim.

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Let $T$ be a continuous mapping of a complete metric space $X$ into itself such that ${T}^{k}$ is a contraction mapping of $X$ for some positive integer $k$. Then $T$ has a unique fixed point in $X$.

Proof:

${T}^{k}$ has a unique fixed point $u$ in $X$ and $u=\lim_{{n}\to{\infty}}\left({T}^{k}\right)^n{x}_{0}$ ${x}_{0}\in X$ arbitrary.

Also $\lim_{{n}\to{\infty}}\left({T}^{k}\right)^nT{x}_{0}=u$. Hence

$u=\lim_{{n}\to{\infty}}({T}^{k})^nT{x}_{0}$=$\lim_{{n}\to{\infty}}T\left({T}^{k}\right)^n{x}_{0}$ (2)
=$T\lim_{{n}\to{\infty}}\left({T}^{k}\right)^n{x}_{0}$
=$Tu$.İn this proof, I didnt understand, How (2) happened ? Please, can you explain ? Thank you for your attention...Best wishes...
 
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ozkan12 said:
Let $T$ be a continuous mapping of a complete metric space $X$ into itself such that ${T}^{k}$ is a contraction mapping of $X$ for some positive integer $k$. Then $T$ has a unique fixed point in $X$.

Proof:

${T}^{k}$ has a unique fixed point $u$ in $X$ and $u=\lim_{{n}\to{\infty}}\left({T}^{k}\right)^n{x}_{0}$ ${x}_{0}\in X$ arbitrary.

Also $\lim_{{n}\to{\infty}}\left({T}^{k}\right)^nT{x}_{0}=u$. Hence

$u=\lim_{{n}\to{\infty}}({T}^{k})^nT{x}_{0}$=$\lim_{{n}\to{\infty}}T\left({T}^{k}\right)^n{x}_{0}$ (2)
=$T\lim_{{n}\to{\infty}}\left({T}^{k}\right)^n{x}_{0}$
=$Tu$.İn this proof, I didnt understand, How (2) happened ? Please, can you explain ? Thank you for your attention...Best wishes...
Since $T^k$ is a contraction map, $\lim_{{n}\to{\infty}}\left({T}^{k}\right)^ny = u$ for any $y\in X$. In particular, this holds for $y=Tx_0$, so that $\lim_{{n}\to{\infty}}\left({T}^{k}\right)^nT{x}_{0}=u$. But powers of $T$ commute with each other, so $\left({T}^{k}\right)^nT = T\left({T}^{k}\right)^n$. Therefore $u = \lim_{{n}\to{\infty}}T\left({T}^{k}\right)^n{x}_{0}$, as claimed in (2).
 
Dear professor,

Firstly, Thank you so much...But why powers of T is commute each other ?
 
Opalg said:
Since $T^k$ is a contraction map, $\lim_{{n}\to{\infty}}\left({T}^{k}\right)^ny = u$ for any $y\in X$. In particular, this holds for $y=Tx_0$, so that $\lim_{{n}\to{\infty}}\left({T}^{k}\right)^nT{x}_{0}=u$. But powers of $T$ commute with each other, so $\left({T}^{k}\right)^nT = T\left({T}^{k}\right)^n$. Therefore $u = \lim_{{n}\to{\infty}}T\left({T}^{k}\right)^n{x}_{0}$, as claimed in (2).

ozkan12 said:
But why powers of T is commute each other ?
Index laws: $\left({T}^{k}\right)^nT = T^{kn+1} = t^{1+kn} = T\left({T}^{k}\right)^n$.
 
Dear professor,

İn there $({T}^{k})$ is composite function, isn't it ? That is, İn my opinion, we don't get exponentiate
 
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In this context, $T^k y=\underbrace{TTT\dots T}_{k \, \text{times}}y,$ so that $T^k$ is shorthand for "compose $T$ with itself $k$ times". So, you are correct.
 
ozkan12 said:
İn there $({T}^{k})$ is composite function, isn't it ? That is, İn my opinion, we don't get exponentiate
The operation of composition is associative, and therefore obeys the index laws.
 

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