Proving a Fixed Point Theorem for Shrinking Maps on Compact Spaces

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The discussion revolves around proving a fixed point theorem for shrinking maps on compact spaces. Participants explore the implications of a shrinking map, the properties of compact sets, and the convergence of sequences generated by such maps. The focus is on the existence and uniqueness of fixed points, with various approaches to the proof being debated.

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  • One participant suggests using the intersection of sets defined by iterating the shrinking map to show the existence of a fixed point.
  • Another participant proposes working with the full sequence rather than a subsequence, arguing that the limit of the sequence must lie in the compact set.
  • A challenge is raised regarding the assumption that elements of the sequence belong to the intersection set, questioning the validity of concluding that the limit point is in that set.
  • Participants discuss the properties of compact sets, noting that they are closed and complete, which implies that Cauchy sequences converge within the set.
  • There is a reiteration of the importance of the closure of sets in the context of convergence and limit points.
  • A theorem is introduced that relates the convergence of a subsequence to the existence of a fixed point.

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Participants express differing views on the validity of certain assumptions regarding the sequences and their limits. There is no consensus on the best approach to proving the theorem, and multiple competing views remain throughout the discussion.

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Participants highlight limitations related to assumptions about the sequences and their membership in the sets defined by the shrinking map. The discussion reflects varying interpretations of convergence and the properties of compact spaces.

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A problem in Munkres' topology book ##\S##-7(b) Page 183
Show that if ##f## is a shrinking map ##d(f(x),f(y)) < d(x,y)## and ##X## is compact, then ##f## has a unique fixed point.
Hint. Let ##A_n=f^n(X)## and ##A=\cap A_n##. Given ##x\in A##, choose ##x_n## so that ##x=f^{n+1}(x_n)##. If ##a## is the limit of some subsequence of the sequence ##y_n=f^n(x_n)##, show that ##a\in A## and ##f(a)=x##. Conlude that ##A=f(A)##, so that ##diam\,A=0##.

Solution: I can prove all except that ##a\in A##, i.e., I had to assume it to prove that ##A=f(A)## and ##diam\,A=0##.
Any help will be welcome.
 
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I will not bother working with a subsequence, and I'll take the full sequence. The easy modification to the general case is left to you.

You should show that ##a \in A_m## for all ##m \geq 1##. Note that we have a descending chain ##A_1 \supseteq A_2 \supseteq \dots##. Fix ##m \geq 1##.

Observe that ##y_n \in A_n \subseteq A_m## for ##n \geq m##. Thus

$$a = \lim_{n \to \infty, n \geq m} y_n \in A_m$$ because ##A_m## is closed (limits of sequences in a set remain in the closure of the set).

Since ##m \geq 1## is arbitrary, ##a \in \bigcap_{m=1}^\infty A_m=A##.
 
Math_QED said:
I will not bother working with a subsequence, and I'll take the full sequence. The easy modification to the general case is left to you.

You should show that ##a \in A_m## for all ##m \geq 1##. Note that we have a descending chain ##A_1 \supseteq A_2 \supseteq \dots##. Fix ##m \geq 1##.

Observe that ##y_n \in A_n \subseteq A_m## for ##n \geq m##. Thus

$$a = \lim_{n \to \infty, n \geq m} y_n \in A_m$$ because ##A_m## is closed (limits of sequences in a set remain in the closure of the set).

Since ##m \geq 1## is arbitrary, ##a \in \bigcap_{m=1}^\infty A_m=A##.
Many thanks for your response, however, I believe that it is not correct. Let us just work with the sequence as you said. Your answer would be correct if ##y_n\in A## then ##a## would be in ##\overline{A}=A##. The problem is that ##y_n\not\in A## in general because we cannot assume that ##y_n\in A_m## for ##m>n##, so ##a## is a limit point for the elements ##\{y_k:k\in Z^+\}## but not for elements in ##A##.
 
facenian said:
Many thanks for your response, however, I believe that it is not correct. Let us just work with the sequence as you said. Your answer would be correct if ##y_n\in A## then ##a## would be in ##\overline{A}=A##. The problem is that ##y_n\not\in A## in general because we cannot assume that ##y_n\in A_m## for ##m>n##, so ##a## is a limit point for the elements ##\{y_k:k\in Z^+\}## but not for elements in ##A##.

I never claim that ##y_n\in A##. Reread my answer more carefully please.

I don't show directly that ##a\in A##, I rather show that ##a \in A_m## for every ##m## and this follows because the sequence lives in ##A_m## for sufficiently large indices. Hence the limit lives in ##\overline{A_m}=A_m##.

You can do this for every ##m## and then you can conclude that ##a \in A##.

Could you let me know if this helped?
 
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Math_QED said:
I never claim that ##y_n\in A##. Reread my answer more carefully please.

I don't show directly that ##a\in A##, I rather show that ##a \in A_m## for every ##m## and this follows because the sequence lives in ##A_m## for sufficiently large indices. Hence the limit lives in ##\overline{A_m}=A_m##.

You can do this for every ##m## and then you can conclude that ##a \in A##.
You are right! I read it and interpreted it as I tried to solve it before. Thank you.
 
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Each An is compact and therefore closed ( in a metric space) and thus so is A as the intersection, and complete ( compact subset/subspace of metric is complete).A Cauchy sequence in A must therefore converge to a point in A.
 
WWGD said:
Each An is compact and therefore closed ( in a metric space) and thus so is A as the intersection, and complete ( compact subset/subspace of metric is complete).A Cauchy sequence in A must therefore converge to a point in A.

The sequence does not live in ##A##.
 
Yes, I clearly oversped on this one. Let me read more carefully.
 
Let ##(X,d)## be a metric space and let ##f:X\to X## be such that
$$d(f(x),f(y))<d(x,y),\quad x\ne y.$$

Theorem. Assume that for some ##x_0## a sequence ##x_{n+1}=f(x_n)## contains a convergent subsequence: ##x_{n_k}\to x_*##. Then ##f(x_*)=x_*##
 
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