Contour integral from "QFT for the gifted amateur"

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The discussion revolves around understanding a contour integral example from "QFT for the Gifted Amateur," specifically focusing on the manipulation of integrals and the implications of changing limits of integration. Participants explore the mathematical steps involved in transforming the integral and the reasoning behind these transformations.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant seeks clarification on how a specific integral transforms, referencing a page in the book.
  • Another participant explains that the extra exponential term arises from splitting the integral into two parts, one from ##-\infty## to ##0## and another from ##0## to ##\infty##.
  • Several participants express confusion about the transformations and substitutions, particularly regarding the limits of integration and the implications of changing variables.
  • One participant suggests that exchanging limits of integration typically introduces a minus sign, questioning the validity of the substitution of ##|p|## with ##-|p|##.
  • Another participant proposes a mathematical identity involving the integral from ##-\infty## to ##0## and its relationship to the integral from ##0## to ##\infty##, suggesting a possible resolution to the confusion.

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Participants express varying levels of understanding regarding the transformations of the integral, with some agreeing on certain mathematical manipulations while others remain uncertain or contest the reasoning behind them. No consensus is reached on the validity of the substitutions and transformations discussed.

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Participants highlight potential limitations in understanding the implications of changing integration limits and the assumptions underlying the substitutions made in the integral manipulations.

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Hi,

Could you please help me understand the following example from page 76 of "QFT for the gifted amatur"?

I can't see how the following integral

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becomes

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Thanks a lot
 
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The extra exponential term is because

$$\int_{-\infty}^{0} d|p| \ ... + \int_{0}^{\infty} d|p| \ ... \ = \int_{0}^{-\infty} d(-|p|) \ ... + \int_{0}^{\infty} d|p| \ ... \ = \ ... \ \\ = \int_{-\infty}^{\infty} d|p| |p| \exp(i |p| |x|) \bigg(\exp(it \sqrt{|p|^2 + m^2}) - \exp(-it \sqrt{|p|^2 + m^2}) \bigg)$$
Substitute ##|p| = iz## as the text says, and you get the last integral in your print.
 
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Thanks but I didn't understand
 
marcom said:
Thanks but I didn't understand
The first integral in your post, originally with the limits ##-\infty## to ##\infty## can be re-expressed as a sum of two integrals, one from ##-\infty## to ##0## plus other one from ##0## to ##\infty##.

The first one, ##-\infty## to ##0##, can be re-expressed as being from ##0## to ##-\infty## as long as you change all ##|p|## by ##-|p|## in the integral. Do this to see what you get: the last integral in your print image.
 
I obtain:
∫d|p||p| e-it (√|p| 2 + m 2)(ei|p||x|+e-i|p||x|)
 
marcom said:
I obtain:
∫d|p||p| e-it (√|p| 2 + m 2)(ei|p||x|+e-i|p||x|)
That's right (you just need a minus sign in the exponential sum) . Re-write it as ##\int d|p| |p| \exp(i|p||x|) \bigg(\exp \bigg(i|p| \sqrt{|p|^2+m^2} \bigg) - \exp \bigg(-i|p| \sqrt{|p|^2+m^2} \bigg) \bigg)##
and make the substitution ##|p| = iz##.
 
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OK, thanks a lot for your help!
 
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davidge said:
The first one, ##-\infty## to ##0##, can be re-expressed as being from ##0## to ##-\infty## as long as you change all ##|p|## by ##-|p|## in the integral. Do this to see what you get: the last integral in your print image.

Sorry to talk again about this but normally exchanging the limits of integration only introduces a minus sign
ab=-∫ba
And the result wouldn't be the same, so I don't understand why the substitution p -p works.

(And to be precise in the book they calculate the integral from infinity to I am (left side) + I am to infinity (right side) because for Jordan's lemma we only have to worry about the part going up and down the cut from I am to infinity [that is equal to the integral on the real axis for Cauchy's theorem])

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Perhaps because:
##\int_{-\infty}^{0} f(x)dx##=##-\int_{0}^{-\infty} f(x)dx##=##-\int_{0}^{+\infty} f(-x)d(-x)## ?
 
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