Contour map of the function showing several level curves

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Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around the function ƒ(x,y) = ln(x² + 4y²) and the task of creating a contour map with level curves representing specific values of the function.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the concept of level curves and question the method of plotting them. There is a discussion about whether to solve for y or to analyze the equation ln(x² + 4y²) = C directly. Some participants suggest recognizing the resulting ellipses from the equation.

Discussion Status

There are multiple interpretations being explored regarding the plotting of level curves. Some guidance has been offered on understanding the relationship between the function and its level curves, particularly in recognizing the shapes of the curves as ellipses. However, there is no explicit consensus on the best approach to take.

Contextual Notes

Participants note some confusion regarding the original poster's diagram and the correct positioning of the curves based on different values of C. There is an indication that the original problem may have lacked clarity in its presentation.

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Homework Statement


ƒ(x,y) = ln(x2+4y2)

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I'm not really sure but I solved for y

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What do you get for y at x=0 from x2+4y2=1? Where is/are that/those on your diagram?

I'm not sure whether you are supposed to plot curves for equal increments in f, as one would on a cartographic map.
 
"Level curves" are curves on which the expression has a specific value. I would not solve for y. Instead, I would look at the equation ln(x^2+ 4y^2)= C and recognize that, taking the exponential of both sides, x^2+ 4y^2= e^C which is equivalent to \frac{x^2}{e^C}+ \frac{y^2}{e^C/4}= 1. You should immediately see that, for every C, this is an ellipse, centered at the origin, with x intercepts at \left(-e^{C/2}, 0\right) and \left(e^{C/2}, 0\right), y intercepts at \left(0, -\frac{e^{C/2}}{2}\right) and \left(0, \frac{e^{C/2}}{2}\right).
 
HallsofIvy said:
"Level curves" are curves on which the expression has a specific value. I would not solve for y. Instead, I would look at the equation ln(x^2+ 4y^2)= C and recognize that, taking the exponential of both sides, x^2+ 4y^2= e^C which is equivalent to \frac{x^2}{e^C}+ \frac{y^2}{e^C/4}= 1. You should immediately see that, for every C, this is an ellipse, centered at the origin, with x intercepts at \left(-e^{C/2}, 0\right) and \left(e^{C/2}, 0\right), y intercepts at \left(0, -\frac{e^{C/2}}{2}\right) and \left(0, \frac{e^{C/2}}{2}\right).
Yes, that was a bit confusing in the OP, but judging from the drawing I would say cosmos42 understood about different values for C.
I was trying to guide cosmos into realising that the curves were centred wrongly.
 

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