Controls Engineering and Physics

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers around the relationship between controls engineering and physics, particularly regarding career prospects in aerospace, robotics, and the definition of being a physicist or applied physicist. Participants explore the implications of pursuing research in physical modeling within controls engineering.

Discussion Character

  • Debate/contested
  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses interest in pursuing a career in controls engineering and questions whether this path can lead to significant opportunities in aerospace, robotics, and physics.
  • Another participant, a registered controls engineer, suggests that while direct physics work may be less common, there are ample opportunities in related fields such as chemical, robotic, and aerospace engineering.
  • There is a contention about whether being an engineer involved in physics research qualifies one as an applied physicist, with differing opinions on the validity of such a claim.
  • Some participants argue that the title of "physicist" is not easily granted and typically requires a Ph.D. and active research in the field.
  • Concerns are raised about the importance of titles and how others perceive one's professional identity, with some suggesting that enjoyment and competence in one's work should take precedence over titles.
  • Photonics engineering is mentioned as a potential area where practitioners might be considered applied physicists, though this remains uncertain.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on whether engineers can be considered physicists or applied physicists. There are multiple competing views on the definitions and implications of these titles, as well as the importance of societal perception.

Contextual Notes

The discussion reflects varying definitions of what constitutes a physicist and the criteria for being recognized as one, highlighting the ambiguity surrounding professional titles in the context of engineering and physics.

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Hi everyone! I'm a Computer Engineering student, and for the Master Degree i think i would like to proceed my career in Controls Engineering, because i really like the subject, anyway my interests are aerospace, robotics and physics, do you think a controls engineer can have a significant career in these fields ?
And since I'm really interested in physics, do you think that if i do research in physical modelling for Controls Engineering i can even be considered a physicist or an applied physicist ?

Thanks
 
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You will not be considered a physicist. But that's OK.

I am a registered Controls Engineer. There is plenty of work for people like you or me. You will find that straight physics work is not that common. However, chemical, robotic, and aerospace work is. Don't overlook the more mundane but very essential work such as electric power plants, refineries, assembly lines, food processing, HVAC work, and so on. Yes, it is easy to sneer at such work, but it is typically very steady work that pays reasonably well. There is also plenty of opportunity for advancement if you want to go that route.

Motion control in particular is getting a lot of attention. Nevertheless, while it is cool to discuss robots, the real work of controlling servos for actuators and non-linear curve compensation for process consistency is much more interesting.
 
yes but anyway since I'm an engineer, i can be considered an applied physicist, if I'm doing research or if i write publications about physics right?
 
nebbione said:
yes but anyway since I'm an engineer, i can be considered an applied physicist, if I'm doing research or if i write publications about physics right?

Only in your mind.

But as JakeBrodskyPE said, that's OK.
 
nebbione said:
yes but anyway since I'm an engineer, i can be considered an applied physicist, if I'm doing research or if i write publications about physics right?

I don't think so. Most people with PhDs in physics don't even become physicists.
 
what about photonics engineering can them be considered some kind of applied physicist ?
 
You are a little too worried about what words other people use to describe you and your job.

As long as you enjoy what you are doing and are doing well at it, it really doesn't matter what other people call your job at all.
 
Engineering is applied physics. But if you call yourself an applied physicist, all you will get will be puzzled looks.

Engineering is an old, respectable, and noble profession. Why are you so eager to call yourself something else? Given the scandals of late, it is more respectable than calling yourself an accountant, a lawyer, a journalist, or a politician.
 
well, I really want to study and enhance in physics, and i like to work in the engineering field, but even physics, that's why i would like to be considered a physicist in the society... anyway i think it depends on what we mean by physicist, and anyway, what the people think is important, and for example if I'm an engineer and I'm really good at physics and always get the news on new physics research and write publications about physics, i can't understand why one can't be considered an engineer and a physicist... I think that nobody can give you the title of physicist, it's all about how much you know about it, and if you write publications in that matter... Am I wrong ?
 
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Nobody gives you the title "physicist", but the reality is that unless you have a Ph.D. in physics *and* are doing research in the field, no other physicist will consider you a physicist.
 

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