Convergence/Divergence of Tricky Series: Tips and Tricks for Ʃn=1∞ in/n

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The discussion centers around the convergence or divergence of the series Ʃn=1∞ in/n, exploring various tests and approaches to analyze its behavior. Participants share insights related to power series, particularly in the context of complex analysis and boundary conditions.

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  • One participant expresses difficulty in determining the convergence of the series using various tests, including Comparison, Ratio, Root, and nth term tests.
  • Another participant references the power series for \log(1-z) and its radius of convergence, questioning the behavior on the boundary |z|=1.
  • A participant acknowledges the periodicity of the terms in the series and suggests that this might be useful in the analysis.
  • One participant claims to have found a result, stating that Ʃn=1∞ in/n equals -log(1-i), but this claim is met with skepticism regarding the convergence on the boundary.
  • Concerns are raised about the validity of convergence at points on the boundary, particularly at z=1, and the need for proof of convergence for other points.
  • Another participant suggests using Abel's test to show convergence for all z ≠ 1 on the boundary, but notes complications due to some terms being negative.
  • There is uncertainty about the applicability of various convergence tests, with one participant expressing doubt about the use of Abel's test in this context.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the convergence of the series or the validity of the proposed methods. Multiple competing views and uncertainties remain regarding the application of convergence tests and the behavior of the series on the boundary.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention various mathematical tests and concepts, but there are unresolved questions about the assumptions underlying these tests and the specific conditions under which they apply. The discussion reflects a range of interpretations and approaches without definitive conclusions.

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Hey,

I am trying to determine the convergence/divergence of

Ʃn=1 in/n.

I have tried all the tests I could think of (Comparison, Ratio, Root, nth term) and cannot determine it's convergence.

If there was a formula, for say, the Mth partial sum SM then, if the limit as M → ∞ of SM is L, we have convergence to L but I can't seem to arrange for the thing to add up the first M terms.

Clearly, I think something can be done with the fact that in = {i, -1, -i, 1} repeatably with periodicity 4. I'm not sure how this can exactly be of help though!

Any help appreciated, thanks.
 
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Do you know the power series for \log(1-z)? It has a raidus of convergence equal to one. However convergence on the boundary |z|=1 is well, what? Take a look at Wikipedia for "Radius of Convergence".
 
Ah! I see, and we have |i| = 1 but i ≠ 1 so there we go!

Thanks a bunch. Factoring out the -1 seems to make it all go quite nicely.
 
Ʃn=1 in/n = -log(1-i), woo hoo!
 
You know, that's really not good enough. Why does it converge on the boundary except for z=1? Or rather prove that it does. If you wish anyway.
 
Ah, Thanks for the heads up. I suppose I sort of took that for granted. Would http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abel's_test#Abel.27s_test_in_complex_analysis works to show convergence for all z ≠ 1 on the boundary (in particular, at our point i ≠ 1), as the an's are monotonically decreasing? Some the an, however, are negative...

Trying to take some zo ≠ 1 with |zo| = 1 and using some other test (root, comparison, etc.) doesn't seem to work either, though...
 
Yeah, I don't know off-hand how to show that. There are tests to check for convergence on the boundary. Would need to look into thoses. Don't thinik Abel test would apply though.
 

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