Convergence of a Series: Radius and Endpoints

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The discussion revolves around the convergence of a series and the interpretation of its radius and endpoints. Participants are examining the implications of a statement regarding convergence at a specific point, x=4, and how it relates to the series defined by the transformation y=x+3.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants are exploring the relationship between the convergence of the series and the transformation of variables. There is confusion regarding the phrasing of "converges in x=4" and its implications for the radius of convergence and the set of convergence.

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Multiple interpretations of the convergence statement are being explored, with some participants questioning the correctness of the original phrasing. Guidance has been offered regarding the distinction between convergence at a point versus the radius of convergence, but no consensus has been reached on the correct interpretation.

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There is an ongoing debate about the terminology used in the problem statement, particularly the phrase "converges in x=4," which some participants find misleading. The distinction between the radius of convergence and the set of convergence is also under scrutiny.

Amaelle
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Homework Statement
look at the image
Relevant Equations
Set of convergence
Greetings
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According to my understanding: if x converges in 4 means that the series converges -1<x+3<7 but the solution says C
Any hint?
thank you!
 
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Set ##y = x +3##. The radius of convergence wrt ##y## must be an interval centred on ##y =0##.
 
PeroK said:
Set ##y = x +3##. The radius of convergence wrt ##y## must be an interval centred on ##y =0##.
thank you this is what I have done
y=x+3
x conveges in 4 then
y converges in ]-1,7[
not the answer
 
Amaelle said:
thank you this is what I have done
y=x+3
x conveges in 4 then
y converges in ]-1,7[
not the answer
The radius of convergence is an interval centred on ##0##. It cannot be ##[-1,7]##.
 
PeroK said:
The radius of convergence is an interval centred on ##0##. It cannot be ##[-1,7]##.
the exercice ask about the set of convergence and not the radius and as you can see we have y=x+3 y is centred in 0 not x
 
Amaelle said:
y is centred in 0 not x
That's not what you have. You have ##y## centred on ##3##:
Amaelle said:
y converges in ]-1,7[
not the answer
 
Amaelle said:
the exercice ask about the set of convergence and not the radius
You asked for a hint and the hint was to think about the radius of convergence.
 
Amaelle said:
the exercice ask about the set of convergence and not the radius
The width of the interval of convergence is two times the radius of convergence.
 
The phrase "converges in x=4" is strange. It should be "converges AT x=4". That tells you that with x=4, we are in or exactly at the boundary of convergence at x=4. So (x+3)=7 is inside or at the radius of convergence of the power series.
So, what can you say about the region of convergence? Be careful about where the convergence is absolute versus other convergence. That makes a big difference exactly at the endpoints of the region of convergence.
 
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Amaelle said:
thank you this is what I have done
y=x+3
x conveges in 4 then
y converges in ]-1,7[
Neither x nor y "converges in" some point or some interval. It's the series that converges, not values of x or y.
FactChecker said:
The phrase "converges in x=4" is strange. It should be "converges AT x=4".
That phrasing bothers me as well. I agree that it should be "converges AT x =4" or wherever.
 
  • #11
Amaelle said:
Homework Statement:: look at the image
Relevant Equations:: Set of convergence

Greetings
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According to my understanding: if x converges in 4 means that the series converges -1<x+3<7
This sounds wrong. Are you thinking that "converges in x=4" means that the radius of convergence is 4? That is not how I would interpret it. I would guess that the phrase was bad and they meant "converges at x=4", which makes it converge for (x+3)=7. So the radius of convergence is 7. That will change your endpoints of the region of convergence.
 

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