Convergence of Series: Ratio Test vs. Comparison Test

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The discussion revolves around determining the convergence or divergence of the series defined by the summation from n=1 to infinity of ((n+1)^n / (n^(n+1))). Participants explore various tests for convergence, including the root test, ratio test, and comparison test, while questioning the transformation of the original series into a limit expression.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss using the root test and ratio test to analyze the series. There is a question about the transformation of the series into a limit involving (1 + 1/n)^n, and some express confusion regarding the disappearance of the n+1 term. Others suggest considering the comparison test and the implications of the harmonic series.

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The discussion is active, with participants sharing their thoughts on different convergence tests and expressing confusion about certain transformations. Some guidance has been offered regarding the use of the ratio test and the comparison test, but there is no explicit consensus on the convergence of the series yet.

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Participants note that the series involves positive terms and that the original problem may have constraints or hints that influence their approach, such as the relationship to the harmonic series and the limit expression provided.

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Does this series converge or diverge. n=1 SIGMA infinity ( (n+1)^n / ( n^(n+1) ) )

this could also be changed to lim n-> infinity (1 + 1/n)^n , but then i ask, where the n+1 in the original equation has went?

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Since those are all positive numbers, I would be inclined to use the root test:
^n\sqrt{\frac{(n+1)^n}{n^{n+1}}}= \frac{n+1}{n^\frac{n+1}{n}}[/itex]<br /> If the limit of that is less than 1, then the series converges.<br /> <br /> As to &quot;where did the n+1 go&quot;, how did you get &quot;lim (1+ 1/n)^n&quot;?
 
The summand can be expressed as \frac{ \left( 1 + \frac{1}{n} \right)^n }{n}, but that doesn't really help anyway.

Halls, the root test returns 1, ie inconclusive. I haven't gone through with the calculations but I would try the ratio test next.
 
Gib Z said:
The summand can be expressed as \frac{ \left( 1 + \frac{1}{n} \right)^n }{n}, but that doesn't really help anyway.

expressing the summand as \frac{ \left( 1 + \frac{1}{n} \right)^n }{n} does help, you just have to give up finding a test but consider finding a divergent minorante.
\frac{1}{n} &lt; \frac{ \left( 1 + \frac{1}{n} \right)^n }{n} and we know that
\sum_{n=1}^{\infty} \frac{1}{n} = \infty
 
Damn that is right >.< good work dalle!
 
Okay, so this problem should be approached by the ratio test. We know it diverges, and i believe so because 1/n is a harmonic series.

also, dalle, it looks though that may be similar to the comparison test then?

and "As to "where did the n+1 go", how did you get "lim (1+ 1/n)^n"?" it was a hint given by the problem and it also is equal to e.
i'm still confused by this.

thankyou for all the help so far.
 

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