Convergence of Series using the Integral Test

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The discussion revolves around determining the convergence of the series \(\Sigma 1/(n^{1+1/n})\) as \(n\) approaches infinity. Participants explore various convergence tests, including the integral test, Cauchy's condensation test, and the ratio test, while addressing the characteristics of the series in question.

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  • Participants discuss the applicability of the integral test and express uncertainty about anti-differentiating the function. Some suggest using Cauchy's condensation test and inquire about its workings. Others propose the ratio test and question its effectiveness. There are discussions about the nature of the series and comparisons to known convergent or divergent series.

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The conversation is active, with participants sharing insights and hints. Some guidance has been offered regarding the integral test and comparisons to simpler series. There is a recognition of the challenges posed by the series, and multiple approaches are being explored without a clear consensus on the next steps.

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Participants note the difficulty in applying certain tests due to the form of the series, and there are mentions of specific conditions under which convergence tests can be applied. The discussion reflects a collaborative effort to clarify concepts and explore various methods without reaching a definitive conclusion.

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Homework Statement



Determine whether the series (from 1 to infinity) [tex]\Sigma[/tex] 1/(n^(1+1/n)) converges.


The Attempt at a Solution



I know that since it is positive, continuous, and decreasing, I am able to use the integral test, but I don't know how to anti-differentiate that. I've tried a u-sub, but that didn't lead anywhere. Any help is much appreciated!
 
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I would first try Cauchys condensation test. It says that

[tex]\sum{u_n}~\text{converges if and only if}~\sum{2^nu_{2^n}}~\text{converges}[/tex]

Tell me if you don't know this or if it is inconclusive. I'll figure something else out...
 
I don't know that test. How does it work?
 
Well, you take a series with term [tex]u_n[/tex]. You change this into a series with term [tex]2^nu_{2^n][/tex]. If this series converges/diverges, then so does the original series.

Example:
The series [tex]\sum{1/n}[/tex] diverges since the series [tex]\sum{2^n/2^n}[/tex] diverges.

Okay, let's try something else. Do you know the following test?
If {a_n}, {b_n} > 0 and if [tex]\lim_{n\rightarrow +\infty}{\frac{a_n}{b_n}}[/tex] exists and is nonzero, then

[tex]\sum_{n=1}^{+\infty}~\text{converges iff}~ \sum_{n=1}^{+\infty}~\text{converges}[/tex]


If not, can you list all the tests you've seen?
 
Also, try a ratio test. I think that might work.
An integral test, like you tried, is hard cause u don't know that integral...
 
llooppii said:

Homework Statement



Determine whether the series (from 1 to infinity) [tex]\Sigma[/tex] 1/(n^(1+1/n)) converges.


The Attempt at a Solution



I know that since it is positive, continuous, and decreasing, I am able to use the integral test, but I don't know how to anti-differentiate that. I've tried a u-sub, but that didn't lead anywhere. Any help is much appreciated!

You can't apply the integral test directly. Your series is 1/(n*n^(1/n)). Try to think of a function you can replace the n^(1/n) part with that allows you to integrate it and then apply a comparison test. Hint: your given series is really close to being 1/n.
 
Ah thank you! That really helped. Could i just say that because n^(1+1/n) is always greater than n, that the series must converge because p-series states that p > 1, then the series converges??
 
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llooppii said:
Ah thank you! That really helped. Could i just say that because n^(1+1/n) is always greater than n, that the series must converge because p-series states that p > 1, then the series converges??

No. Because it's not a p-series. I'll also give you the hint that it diverges. Can you find a series that's smaller than the given series that you can show diverges?
 
No, because p=1+1/n and this is dependent of n. We can only say that 1/n^p converges if p is constant. I'd still try the ration test...
 
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i really can't think of anything that works because i always end up having n^n for i don't know a test for...
 
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micromass said:
No, because p=1+1/n and this is dependent of n. We can only say that 1/n^p converges if p is constant. I'd still try the ration test...

The ratio test gives you 1. Did you try it?
 
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llooppii said:
i really can't think of anything that works because i always end up having n^n for i don't know a test for...

What do you think about 1/(n*log(n))? Convergent, divergent?
 
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Does following equation help you?

[tex]\frac{1}{2n}\leq \frac{1}{n^{1+1/n}}[/tex]
 
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i must have done the ratio test wrong then, but it would still fail if it equals 1 though, rite? and I am not too sure about nlogn, but i definitely see how 1/2n works. thank you very much micromass and Dick, i really appreciate your time!
 
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Yeah, I'm sorry about the confusion. The ratio test didn't work ): Glad you've got the answer now (:
 
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micromass said:
Does following equation help you?

[tex]\frac{1}{2n}\leq \frac{1}{n^{1+1/n}}[/tex]

That's an even better choice than the one I was thinking of.
 

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