Convergence Vectors Calculus: Definition

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The discussion revolves around the definition of convergence in calculus specifically for vectors. Participants explore various interpretations and formulations of convergence, considering both sequences of vectors and the underlying mathematical structures involved.

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  • One participant questions what specific aspect of convergence is being discussed, suggesting that it could pertain to sequences of numbers or functions, and emphasizes the need for a measurement to determine closeness between objects.
  • Another participant provides a formal definition of convergence for a sequence of vectors, stating that a sequence of vectors converges to a vector if, for any given margin of accuracy, there exists a natural number such that all subsequent elements of the sequence are within that margin of distance to the limit vector.
  • A similar definition is reiterated by another participant, highlighting that the specific norm used in the convergence definition depends on the vector space in question, and noting that convergence can also be defined in topological spaces using open sets.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants present overlapping definitions of convergence for vectors, but there is no explicit consensus on a singular definition or approach. The discussion remains open with various interpretations being explored.

Contextual Notes

Some definitions provided depend on the choice of norm and the specific vector space, which may not have been fully clarified in the discussion. Additionally, the implications of convergence in different mathematical contexts, such as topological spaces, are mentioned but not resolved.

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What is the definition of convergence in calculus for vectors?
 
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What is the one you are used to?
 
I don't have one. I literally have no idea what the definition is.
 
Well, first question is: convergence of what? Do we talk about a convergent sequence of "numbers", which can be vectors as well, or do we talk about sequences of functions. All we need is a sort of measurement, that allows us to say whether two objects are closer to each other than other objects.
You might want to read these Wikipedia entries on it
  1. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sequence#Limits_and_convergence
  2. the links in https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Function_series
As you can see there, it is a bit messy. Basically it is about a limit and its definition:

"##a## is the limit of a sequence ##(a_n)_{n \in \mathbb{N}}##" is written ##\lim_{n \rightarrow \infty} a_n = a## and means
$$ \forall \, \varepsilon > 0 \, \exists \, N(\varepsilon) \in \mathbb{N} \,\forall \, n \geq N(\varepsilon) : \,\vert \,a_n - a \,\vert \, < \varepsilon$$
which means, for any given margin of accuracy ##\varepsilon## there can be found a natural number ##N(\varepsilon)## from which on all elements of the sequence, i.e. those that come after, are all within the given distance ##\varepsilon## to the limit point ##a##. For short: the higher the ##n## the closer the ##a_n## are to ##a## or more precisely: the closer you want to get to the limit, the higher the ##N## is from where on you're close enough. But there always is one.

You see, all it takes is ##\,\vert \, . \, \vert## to measure a distance. This includes vectors, functions, series and so on. All of them are some kind of generalization to this concept, or variations of how the convergence behaves (as in the case of functions: it could be the case, that a sequence ##f(x_n) \rightarrow f(x)## converges faster than a sequence ##f(y_n) \rightarrow f(y)## for the same function at different points.)

But whether the elements of ##(a_n)_{n \in \mathbb{N}}## are numbers, vectors or function values of which dimension ever, or partial sums ##(\Sigma_{k = 1}^n a_k)_{n \in \mathbb{N}}## doesn't matter.
 
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iDimension said:
What is the definition of convergence in calculus for vectors?
I'll take a stab at it. A sequence of vectors ##\{ \vec{x_n}\}## converges to a vector ##\vec{x}## iff ##\forall \epsilon > 0~~ \exists N > 0## such that ##n > N \Rightarrow ||\vec{x_n} - \vec{x}|| < \epsilon##.

The particular norm being used--|| ||--depends on which space your vectors belong to.
 
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Mark44 said:
I'll take a stab at it. A sequence of vectors ##\{ \vec{x_n}\}## converges to a vector ##\vec{x}## iff ##\forall \epsilon > 0~~ \exists N > 0## such that ##n > N \Rightarrow ||\vec{x_n} - \vec{x}|| < \epsilon##.

The particular norm being used--|| ||--depends on which space your vectors belong to.
This is almost certainly what the OP is looking for. It could also be defined in any topological space using its open sets.
 
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