Converging Vs diverging sequences

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The discussion centers on determining whether the sequence defined as an=(n^2)/(n+2) - (n^2)/(n+3) is converging or diverging. Initial analysis suggests that rewriting the sequence over a common denominator leads to a limit of 1, indicating convergence. However, applying the reciprocal rule reveals that the individual terms diverge, suggesting the sequence itself is divergent. A key takeaway is that one cannot simply take the limits of individual terms when assessing the convergence of a sequence formed from their difference. The conversation emphasizes the importance of proper methods in analyzing convergence and divergence in sequences.
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Homework Statement
Convergent
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Convergent and divergent
A sequence is made up of two sequences

an=(n^2)/(n+2) - (n^2)/(n+3)

The problem asks for the solver to work out if it's converging or diverging, and find a limit if possible.

My first thought was to write both over a common denominator and then divide through by the dominant term; this implied converging with a limit of 1 for the positive values of n.

But if the reciprocal rule is instead applied, both are null sequences which therefore tend to infinity.

It's obviously divergent, so I guess the lesson is don't mess with the original question?

Thank you

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penroseandpaper said:
But if the reciprocal rule is instead applied, both are null sequences which therefore tend to infinity.
The individual terms would diverge, but the sequence is the difference between the individual terms, you can't take their individual limits if these limits don't exist.
As a simpler example, consider ##a_n = (n+1)-n##. As ##a_n=1## it's trivially converging, but n+1 and n alone wouldn't converge.
 
mfb said:
The individual terms would diverge, but the sequence is the difference between the individual terms, you can't take their individual limits if these limits don't exist.
As a simpler example, consider ##a_n = (n+1)-n##. As ##a_n=1## it's trivially converging, but n+1 and n alone wouldn't converge.

Ah, thanks for clarifying. So, it's converging.

Is there any other more appropriate/simpler way of showing it's converging other than either rewriting over common denominator and dividing through by the dominant term - just wondering if I'm missing something more obvious?

Thanks
 
penroseandpaper said:
Ah, thanks for clarifying. So, it's converging.

Is there any other more appropriate/simpler way of showing it's converging other than either rewriting over common denominator and dividing through by the dominant term - just wondering if I'm missing something more obvious?

Thanks
The method of combining the terms is just about as simple as it gets!
 
In general, for future problems you may have involving divergence/convergence of a sequence. Assuming that you are in an Analysis 1 class or abovePerok is right on the money for this one.

You can look for the following The following are true statements in R.: Every convergent sequence is bounded, Subsequences of a convergent sequence converge to the same limit as the original sequence, If a sequence is monotone and bounded, then it converges, Every sequence is convergent iff the sequence is Cauchy.

So to show divergence, show that the sequence is not bounded, or pick two subsequences of a convergent sequence that converge to two different limits, or show that the sequence is not Cauchy.
 
Question: A clock's minute hand has length 4 and its hour hand has length 3. What is the distance between the tips at the moment when it is increasing most rapidly?(Putnam Exam Question) Answer: Making assumption that both the hands moves at constant angular velocities, the answer is ## \sqrt{7} .## But don't you think this assumption is somewhat doubtful and wrong?

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