Converging Vs diverging sequences

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The discussion revolves around determining the convergence or divergence of a sequence defined as the difference between two sequences, specifically an=(n^2)/(n+2) - (n^2)/(n+3). Participants are exploring methods to analyze the behavior of the sequence as n approaches infinity.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss rewriting the sequence over a common denominator and dividing by the dominant term as a method to analyze convergence. There is also consideration of the implications of applying the reciprocal rule and the importance of the difference between individual terms in the sequence.

Discussion Status

Some participants express a belief that the sequence converges, while others question the methods used to arrive at this conclusion. There is an ongoing exploration of alternative approaches to demonstrate convergence, with no explicit consensus reached on the best method.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention constraints related to the analysis of convergence in the context of a potential Analysis 1 class, suggesting that certain mathematical properties and definitions may be relevant to the discussion.

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Homework Statement
Convergent
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Convergent and divergent
A sequence is made up of two sequences

an=(n^2)/(n+2) - (n^2)/(n+3)

The problem asks for the solver to work out if it's converging or diverging, and find a limit if possible.

My first thought was to write both over a common denominator and then divide through by the dominant term; this implied converging with a limit of 1 for the positive values of n.

But if the reciprocal rule is instead applied, both are null sequences which therefore tend to infinity.

It's obviously divergent, so I guess the lesson is don't mess with the original question?

Thank you

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penroseandpaper said:
But if the reciprocal rule is instead applied, both are null sequences which therefore tend to infinity.
The individual terms would diverge, but the sequence is the difference between the individual terms, you can't take their individual limits if these limits don't exist.
As a simpler example, consider ##a_n = (n+1)-n##. As ##a_n=1## it's trivially converging, but n+1 and n alone wouldn't converge.
 
mfb said:
The individual terms would diverge, but the sequence is the difference between the individual terms, you can't take their individual limits if these limits don't exist.
As a simpler example, consider ##a_n = (n+1)-n##. As ##a_n=1## it's trivially converging, but n+1 and n alone wouldn't converge.

Ah, thanks for clarifying. So, it's converging.

Is there any other more appropriate/simpler way of showing it's converging other than either rewriting over common denominator and dividing through by the dominant term - just wondering if I'm missing something more obvious?

Thanks
 
penroseandpaper said:
Ah, thanks for clarifying. So, it's converging.

Is there any other more appropriate/simpler way of showing it's converging other than either rewriting over common denominator and dividing through by the dominant term - just wondering if I'm missing something more obvious?

Thanks
The method of combining the terms is just about as simple as it gets!
 
In general, for future problems you may have involving divergence/convergence of a sequence. Assuming that you are in an Analysis 1 class or abovePerok is right on the money for this one.

You can look for the following The following are true statements in R.: Every convergent sequence is bounded, Subsequences of a convergent sequence converge to the same limit as the original sequence, If a sequence is monotone and bounded, then it converges, Every sequence is convergent iff the sequence is Cauchy.

So to show divergence, show that the sequence is not bounded, or pick two subsequences of a convergent sequence that converge to two different limits, or show that the sequence is not Cauchy.
 

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