Converting energy to force at impact

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SUMMARY

The discussion focuses on calculating the average force required to damage a section of grade 50 steel pipe using an impact tester. The energy delivered to the pipe is known, but there is uncertainty regarding the appropriate distance to use for the force calculation. The formula E=fd (where E is energy, f is force, and d is distance) is highlighted, emphasizing that a longer crumple distance results in a smaller force for the same energy. Participants agree that using the crumple distance of the material being tested is crucial for accurate force determination.

PREREQUISITES
  • Understanding of basic physics concepts, specifically energy and force.
  • Familiarity with the formula E=fd for energy calculations.
  • Knowledge of material properties, particularly the behavior of grade 50 steel under impact.
  • Experience with impact testing methodologies and equipment.
NEXT STEPS
  • Research the impact testing standards for materials, focusing on ASTM E23.
  • Learn about the crumple distance measurement techniques for various materials.
  • Explore the effects of different materials on force calculations in impact scenarios.
  • Investigate advanced energy absorption mechanisms in materials to enhance testing accuracy.
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Engineers, material scientists, and researchers involved in impact testing and material failure analysis will benefit from this discussion.

BPLafser
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Hello
This should be simple but for some reason I'm having some trouble with a test we are performing.

The end goal is to determine the average force required to damage a section of steel pipe experimentally with an impact tester. We built the tester and know what energy will hit the side of the tube (2" diameter, 1/8" wall thickness grade 50 steel) but I am uncertain how to correctly turn this to a force. I know that J/m can be converted to force but there is some debate on which distance we should be using.
It would make logical sense for us to use the distance the tube crumpled by upon impact but I am unsure as to how this would work as it does not consider the material we are testing. We could use a cardboard tube and get a much higher force than steel for the same height.
And advice you could offer would be greatly appreciated.
 
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BPLafser said:
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We could use a cardboard tube and get a much higher force than steel for the same height.
No. energy is force times distance(E=fd). So to get force from energy you would use f=E/d. A longer crumple distance gives as smaller force for the same energy.
 
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