Coordinates of a point in 3D provided connecting points are known

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around determining the coordinates of a point C in a three-dimensional space, given specific points A, B, and known distances and angles. The scope includes mathematical reasoning and potential programming applications related to geometry in 3D space.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Technical explanation, Debate/contested, Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests using the dot product and distance formula to find the coordinates of point C, expressing a desire for a simpler solution.
  • Another participant asserts that the problem lacks sufficient information to yield a unique solution for point C, noting that multiple points can satisfy the given conditions in 3D space.
  • A further contribution reiterates the point that the problem does not provide enough information for a unique solution, emphasizing the existence of a circle of potential points for C.
  • One participant points out the challenge of determining two unknown points (C and D) with only one length and three angles, suggesting that this is not feasible.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that the problem does not have enough information for a unique solution, with multiple competing views on the implications of the provided data.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights limitations in the problem's formulation, particularly regarding the uniqueness of solutions in three-dimensional geometry and the dependencies on the specified angles and distances.

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Hi ,Given 3 points A[x1,y1,z1], B[x2,y2,z2] and C, and given the distance between B and C is known and the angle ABC is supplied. How do we ascertain the coordinates of the point C ?

I can calculate the dot product using the angle, by defining vectors BC and AC and then use the distance formula to get another equation for the coordinates of C. But I have a hunch that there is a simpler way to do this. I need to program this, and therefore the requirement for a simpler solution.

If there is a derivation that you know please point me towards it.

Thanks a lot in advance.MORE Information Added:

I didn't include all the information earlier and yes Mathman is right that as stated this problem doesn't have a unique solution. This is actually a smaller part of the bigger problem I have. Here it goes.

A-B-C-D are 4 points. We define rx = length(B-C), angle, eta = (A-B-C) and angle theta = (B-C-D) and the torsion angle omega= (A-B-C-D). What I really need to do is to find the coordinates of C and D provided that I have the new values of rx, eta, theta and omega. Any pointers would be welcome.

Thanks again.
 
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The problem as stated does not have enough information to get a unique solution for C. Since the problem is 3d, there will be a circle of points satisfying the requirements.
 
mathman said:
The problem as stated does not have enough information to get a unique solution for C. Since the problem is 3d, there will be a circle of points satisfying the requirements.

I have added more information; please take a look if you get a chance ! Thank a lot.
 
You want to find 2 unknown points knowing 1 length and 3 angles. That can't be done either.
 

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