Core Mass-Luminosity Relationship in RGB Stars

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The core mass-luminosity relationship for low-mass stars, specifically those on the Red Giant Branch (RGB), is defined by the equation L=2.3 × 105L(Mc/M)6. The energy released per unit mass during hydrogen fusion into helium is calculated to be approximately 1.843 × 108 J/kg using a core mass of 0.45 M. This calculation is critical for understanding stellar evolution and energy production in stars like the Sun. The discussion highlights the importance of accurate mass values and the implications of using the mass of the core at the tip of the RGB for the entire RGB phase.

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Homework Statement


Low-mass stars like the Sun obey the core mass-luminosity relationship as they burn H in a shell and climb the RBG (Red Giant Branch). What is the energy released per unit mass when fusing hydrogen into helium?

Homework Equations


The core mass-luminosity relationship:
$$
L=2.3 \times 10^{5}L_{\odot}\left(\frac{M_{c}}{M_{\odot}}\right)^{6}
$$
My professor also gave the timescale for a 1##M_{\odot}## star on the RGB as ##5 \times 10^{8}s##. He also gave the mass of the core for a 1##M_{\odot}## star at the tip of the RGB as ##M_{c}=.45M_{\odot}## though I am doubtful this is useful.

The Attempt at a Solution


Since Luminosity is ##\frac{Energy}{Time}## and ##M_{\odot}## is a constant, the equation can be written as
$$
\frac{E}{M_{c}^{6}} = \frac{2.3 \times 10^{5}L_{\odot}}{M_{\odot}^{6}}t=
\frac{2.3 \times 10^{5}(3.839 \times 10^{26}W)(5 \times 10^{8}s)}{(1.9891 \times 10^{30}kg)^{6}}=7.13 \times 10^{-142}J/kg^{6}
$$
As you can see, the number I got was extremely small and in terms of ##J/kg^{6}## not ##J/kg## as is desired.

Additionally, using the ##M_{c}=.45M_{\odot}##,
$$
E=2.3 \times 10^{5}L_{\odot}\left(\frac{M_{c}}{M_{\odot}}\right)^{6}t=
2.3 \times 10^{5}(3.839 \times 10^{26}W)(.45)^{6}(5 \times 10^{8}s)
$$$$
=3.67 \times 10^{38} J
$$
Then divided by the mass of the core yields:
$$
\frac{E}{M_{c}} = \frac{E}{.45M_{\odot}} = \frac{3.67 \times 10^{38}}{.45(1.9891 \times 10^{30})} = 1.843 \times 10^{8} J/kg
$$
This seems somewhat reasonable, but the next four parts of the question depend on this answer and I'm not sure if I am allowed to use the mass of core for a star at the tip of the RGB for the entirety of the RGB. Thanks in advanced for any help
 
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Jamison Lahman said:
What is the energy released per unit mass when fusing hydrogen into helium?
Just by looking at this question (as a physicist), I think of the proton-proton cycle that starts with 6 protons as in here
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proton–proton_chain_reaction
Your number is in on the very low side. For example, the dissociation energy for water is about 500 kJ/mol. To dissociate 1 kg of water (56 mol) you will need 56(mole/kg)*500,000(J/mole) =3×107 J/kg. That's only one order of magnitude below your answer. Surely the Sun can do better than that.
 
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kuruman said:
Just by looking at this question (as a physicist), I think of the proton-proton cycle that starts with 6 protons as in here
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proton–proton_chain_reaction
Your number is in on the very low side. For example, the dissociation energy for water is about 500 kJ/mol. To dissociate 1 kg of water (56 mol) you will need 56(mole/kg)*500,000(J/mole) =3×107 J/kg. That's only one order of magnitude below your answer. Surely the Sun can do better than that.
In deed you were correct. Turns out the problem was a simple E=mc2 problem. About .7% of the mass of hydrogen is released during fusion, so the Energy/mass=.007c2 o0)
 

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