Core Mass-Luminosity Relationship in RGB Stars

In summary, the core mass-luminosity relationship for low-mass stars like the Sun can be used to calculate the energy released per unit mass when fusing hydrogen into helium. The equation is L=2.3 × 10^5L_⊙(M_c/M_⊙)^6 and the timescale for a 1M_⊙ star on the RGB is 5 × 10^8 s. Using the mass of the core at the tip of the RGB, the energy released per unit mass is 1.843 × 10^8 J/kg, which is a reasonable number. However, this answer may not be applicable for the entire RGB stage.
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Homework Statement


Low-mass stars like the Sun obey the core mass-luminosity relationship as they burn H in a shell and climb the RBG (Red Giant Branch). What is the energy released per unit mass when fusing hydrogen into helium?

Homework Equations


The core mass-luminosity relationship:
$$
L=2.3 \times 10^{5}L_{\odot}\left(\frac{M_{c}}{M_{\odot}}\right)^{6}
$$
My professor also gave the timescale for a 1##M_{\odot}## star on the RGB as ##5 \times 10^{8}s##. He also gave the mass of the core for a 1##M_{\odot}## star at the tip of the RGB as ##M_{c}=.45M_{\odot}## though I am doubtful this is useful.

The Attempt at a Solution


Since Luminosity is ##\frac{Energy}{Time}## and ##M_{\odot}## is a constant, the equation can be written as
$$
\frac{E}{M_{c}^{6}} = \frac{2.3 \times 10^{5}L_{\odot}}{M_{\odot}^{6}}t=
\frac{2.3 \times 10^{5}(3.839 \times 10^{26}W)(5 \times 10^{8}s)}{(1.9891 \times 10^{30}kg)^{6}}=7.13 \times 10^{-142}J/kg^{6}
$$
As you can see, the number I got was extremely small and in terms of ##J/kg^{6}## not ##J/kg## as is desired.

Additionally, using the ##M_{c}=.45M_{\odot}##,
$$
E=2.3 \times 10^{5}L_{\odot}\left(\frac{M_{c}}{M_{\odot}}\right)^{6}t=
2.3 \times 10^{5}(3.839 \times 10^{26}W)(.45)^{6}(5 \times 10^{8}s)
$$$$
=3.67 \times 10^{38} J
$$
Then divided by the mass of the core yields:
$$
\frac{E}{M_{c}} = \frac{E}{.45M_{\odot}} = \frac{3.67 \times 10^{38}}{.45(1.9891 \times 10^{30})} = 1.843 \times 10^{8} J/kg
$$
This seems somewhat reasonable, but the next four parts of the question depend on this answer and I'm not sure if I am allowed to use the mass of core for a star at the tip of the RGB for the entirety of the RGB. Thanks in advanced for any help
 
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Jamison Lahman said:
What is the energy released per unit mass when fusing hydrogen into helium?
Just by looking at this question (as a physicist), I think of the proton-proton cycle that starts with 6 protons as in here
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proton–proton_chain_reaction
Your number is in on the very low side. For example, the dissociation energy for water is about 500 kJ/mol. To dissociate 1 kg of water (56 mol) you will need 56(mole/kg)*500,000(J/mole) =3×107 J/kg. That's only one order of magnitude below your answer. Surely the Sun can do better than that.
 
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kuruman said:
Just by looking at this question (as a physicist), I think of the proton-proton cycle that starts with 6 protons as in here
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proton–proton_chain_reaction
Your number is in on the very low side. For example, the dissociation energy for water is about 500 kJ/mol. To dissociate 1 kg of water (56 mol) you will need 56(mole/kg)*500,000(J/mole) =3×107 J/kg. That's only one order of magnitude below your answer. Surely the Sun can do better than that.
In deed you were correct. Turns out the problem was a simple E=mc2 problem. About .7% of the mass of hydrogen is released during fusion, so the Energy/mass=.007c2 o0)
 

1. What is the Core Mass-Luminosity Relationship in RGB Stars?

The Core Mass-Luminosity Relationship in RGB Stars is a relationship between the mass of a star's core and its luminosity (brightness). It describes how the luminosity of a star changes as its core mass increases during the red giant branch (RGB) phase of its evolution.

2. How is the Core Mass-Luminosity Relationship in RGB Stars determined?

The Core Mass-Luminosity Relationship in RGB Stars is determined through observations and theoretical models. Astronomers study the luminosity and mass of RGB stars in different clusters and compare them to theoretical predictions to establish the relationship.

3. What factors influence the Core Mass-Luminosity Relationship in RGB Stars?

The main factor that influences the Core Mass-Luminosity Relationship in RGB Stars is the rate of nuclear fusion in the star's core. This is dependent on the star's initial mass, composition, and age. Other factors such as convection and stellar winds may also play a role.

4. How does the Core Mass-Luminosity Relationship in RGB Stars change over time?

The Core Mass-Luminosity Relationship in RGB Stars evolves over time as the star goes through different phases of its life. During the RGB phase, the relationship is relatively stable, but as the star evolves into a red giant, the core mass-luminosity relationship changes due to changes in the star's structure and fusion processes.

5. What is the significance of the Core Mass-Luminosity Relationship in RGB Stars?

The Core Mass-Luminosity Relationship in RGB Stars is significant because it provides important insights into the evolution of stars and the physical processes that govern their behavior. It also helps astronomers to better understand the properties of stellar populations and how they change over time.

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