Correct energy transformation about circuit with EMF, a resistor and a motor

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The discussion revolves around determining the correct energy transformation in a circuit involving a battery, resistor, and motor. One participant believes the correct answer is C, arguing that electrical energy should be on the right side of the transformation due to the charging of a 1-V battery by a 9-V battery. Another participant questions the exclusion of answer A, prompting a debate on the definition of mechanical energy, which includes gravitational potential energy. Ultimately, a different perspective suggests that none of the provided answers are correct, proposing an alternative transformation pathway: chemical to electrical to thermal and mechanical energy. The conversation highlights the complexities of energy transformations and the importance of definitions in understanding mechanical energy.
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My answer is C (although I am not sure if the correct one is C or D). I suppose since the 1-V battery is being charged by the 9-V battery, the electrical energy should be on the RHS of the energy transformation. Am I correct?

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Given that you think that the correct answer is C, why did you exclude answer A? What's the difference between A and C?
 
kuruman said:
Given that you think that the correct answer is C, why did you exclude answer A? What's the difference between A and C?
Because the pulley lifts a load so I think there would be energy converted to GPE, which is not covered by option A

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What do you understand mechanical energy to be?

Hint: Read the first sentence here.
 
kuruman said:
What do you understand mechanical energy to be?

Hint: Read the first sentence here.
I thought the mechanical energy in this case maybe refer to something in the motor or pulley (like rotation). Is it not? So the correct answer should be A?

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songoku said:
So the correct answer should be A?
Are you asking me or are you telling me? As you know, according to our rules we cannot give answers away.
 
kuruman said:
Are you asking me or are you telling me? As you know, according to our rules we cannot give answers away.
I am asking, sorry.

My answer is still the same, it is C and the reasoning is this
songoku said:
I thought the mechanical energy in this case maybe refer to something in the motor or pulley (like rotation)
Is my reasoning not correct?

Thanks
 
songoku said:
I am asking, sorry.

My answer is still the same, it is C and the reasoning is this

Is my reasoning not correct?

Thanks
I believe if you are adhering to the definition, then gravitational potential is a part of mechanical energy. Do you have definitions given to you of mechanical energy that say otherwise?
 
erobz said:
I believe if you are adhering to the definition, then gravitational potential is a part of mechanical energy. Do you have definitions given to you of mechanical energy that say otherwise?
No, I don't. What I learned about mechanical energy is that it is the sum of potential and kinetic energy. I am only using my own interpretation that maybe this is some trick question so I tried to include whatever rotation in motor and pulley to be referred as mechanical energy and gravitational energy is treated separately

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`IMO none of the given answers are correct and the appropriate answer should be:
chemical → electrical → thermal + mechanical
 
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Thank you very much for the help and explanation kuruman, erobz, Steve4Physics
 
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songoku said:
Thank you very much for the help and explanation kuruman, erobz, Steve4Physics
If you remember, let us know what the supposed correct answer was when you find out.
 
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