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The U.S. government has canceled the CMB-S4 project, a significant cosmology experiment aimed at studying the universe's early moments through the Cosmic Microwave Background. This decision, announced by the Department of Energy and the National Science Foundation, comes amid concerns over federal funding for scientific research. The project, which was expected to cost around $900 million, had been a top priority for astronomers since its conception in 2013. With federal support withdrawn, the project will undergo an orderly shutdown, preserving its technical advancements and documentation. The cancellation has sparked disappointment among scientists, who express concern over the future of federally funded science initiatives.
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(July 25, 2025) - The U.S. Just Axed Its Boldest Cosmology Experiment in Generations​

https://www.scientificamerican.com/...for-cmb-s4-project-to-study-cosmic-inflation/

Amid simmering anxiety about the future of federally funded science, the U.S. government has quietly withdrawn support for cosmology’s next premier project, an experiment that would have given us the best read yet of the strangest chapter in our cosmic origin story.

Called CMB-S4—or Cosmic Microwave Background Stage 4—the project would have used a suite of new radio telescopes, constructed in Antarctica and Chile, to search the big bang’s faint, ancient afterglow for new clues about the universe’s earliest moments. First conceived in 2013 and repeatedly ranked as a top priority by the nation’s astronomers and physicists, the project carried an estimated $900-million price tag, which was set to be roughly split between U.S. Department of Energy and the National Science Foundation (NSF).


Yet in a terse, unsigned statement to project leaders on July 10, the two agencies declared they had “jointly decided that they can no longer support the CMB-S4 project.”

“We knew things weren’t looking good,” says John Carlstrom of the University of Chicago, the project’s principal investigator. “They had warned us that it was not the time to start any big projects, given all the budget areas and all the uncertainty. But whether they would continue to drag us out or have a clean break or try to do something—that was unknown.”

Without federal support, Carlstrom says, the project is essentially canceled. . . . .

https://www.physics.lbl.gov/cmb-s4/

In 2024 - NSF Delays Cosmic Microwave Background Experiment
https://www.aip.org/fyi/nsf-delays-cosmic-microwave-background-experiment

On CMB-S4.org site, https://cmb-s4.org/
On July 9, 2025, the U.S. Department of Energy (DOE), Office of Science, Office of High Energy Physics and the U.S. National Science Foundation (NSF) issued a statement informing the CMB-S4 Project that “DOE and NSF have jointly decided that they can no longer support the CMB-S4 Project.” The CMB-S4 Project is proceeding with an orderly shutdown of the project, documenting the technical advances, survey simulations and instrumentation designs created by the project, and preserving access to the extensive document archive. The CMB-S4 Science Collaboration, which is an independent organization, is working to develop plans to best support the community.
 
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This is so sad ...

Instead they are investigating everything in this Men to Mars nonsense.
 
willyengland said:
This is so sad ...

Instead they are investigating everything in this Men to Mars nonsense.
They? Isn't that Elon's personal project?
 
I think NASA is working with various industry partners here.
Before that, and as an intermediate step, they will try to get to the moon again (Artemis). Perhaps a launch to Mars will follow from there.
 
willyengland said:
This is so sad ...
Yes, but to me it is not nearly as sad as the cancellation of cancer research and other NIH initiatives, along with major science initiatives by various universities.
 
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