Could a planet have liquid water without an atmosphere?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers around the possibility of a planet having large oceans of liquid water without an atmosphere. Participants explore the conditions under which liquid water could exist independently of atmospheric presence, considering both historical and theoretical perspectives on planetary formation and the relationship between atmospheres and oceans.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses uncertainty about the relationship between atmospheres and oceans, questioning whether they must coexist on a planet.
  • Another participant requests sources to support claims regarding the possibility of liquid water existing without an atmosphere.
  • A participant reflects on their previous knowledge of atmospheric and oceanic formation but admits to forgetting the details.
  • One participant provides a brief explanation of Earth's atmospheric formation, noting that early Earth had no atmosphere and that water was present in the materials that formed the planet.
  • It is mentioned that early Earth's atmosphere lacked oxygen and that oxygen appeared only after life evolved to perform photosynthesis.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on whether a planet can have liquid water without an atmosphere. Multiple viewpoints and uncertainties remain regarding the conditions necessary for the existence of liquid water in the absence of an atmosphere.

Contextual Notes

Participants reference various sources and personal recollections about planetary formation, but there are limitations in the details provided, and assumptions about the conditions for liquid water remain unresolved.

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I once knew both how atmospheres formed on planets and how oceans of liquid water formed on planets, but I have forgotten that information. I know that both atmospheres and oceans of liquid water formed due to chemical reactions, but I used to know more of the details of what type of matters formed oceans and atmospheres. Since I no longer know the details, I no longer know whether or not it would be possible for planets to have oceans of liquid water without an atmosphere of oxygen and other elements that make up air. I no longer know if water and an atmosphere must necessarily go together.


For the purposes of my question, I'm asking if a planet could have liquid water without any intelligent life bringing the liquid water to the planet and without an atmosphere.

Without any intelligent life bringing liquid water to a planet, could a planet have large oceans of liquid water without an atmosphere? Please explain your answers.
 
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bluemoonKY said:
Without any intelligent life bringing liquid water to a planet, could a planet have large oceans of liquid water without an atmosphere? Please explain your answers.
Please post your sources that suggest that this is possible. Members, please allow the member to post his sources from his research. Thank you.
 
Evo, if I knew that it was possible for planets to have liquid water without an atmosphere, why would I be asking the question?!
 
bluemoonKY said:
Evo, if I knew that it was possible for planets to have liquid water without an atmosphere, why would I be asking the question?!
What research have you done to aid our members in answering you?
 
Evo, my source on both how the oceans on Earth formed and how the atmosphere of Earth formed, was either one of many different popular science books or it was from Carl Sagan's Cosmos tv series. I'm thinking maybe I got such information from either Stephen Hawking's A Brief History of Time or one of Hawking's other books.
 
Here is a brief explanation of how the Earth's atmosphere formed:
When Earth formed 4.6 billion years ago from a hot mix of gases and solids, it had almost no atmosphere. The surface was molten. As Earth cooled, an atmosphere formed mainly from gases spewed from volcanoes. It included hydrogen sulfide, methane, and ten to 200 times as much carbon dioxide as today’s atmosphere. After about half a billion years, Earth’s surface cooled and solidified enough for water to collect on it.
http://forces.si.edu/atmosphere/02_02_01.html

Water was thought to be present in the material that formed the planet, was spewed into the atmosphere by volcanic activity, and condensed into oceans after the planet cooled. Early Earth's atmosphere did not have any oxygen, and oxygen appeared in the atmosphere only after life had appeared and evolved the ability to perform photosynthesis (http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/origin-of-oxygen-in-atmosphere/).
 
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