Could Black Holes Be Cosmic Centrifuges?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the concept of black holes potentially acting as cosmic centrifuges, influencing the formation of stars and the dynamics of galaxies. Participants explore speculative ideas related to black holes, their gravitational effects, and the nature of matter within them, with a focus on theoretical physics.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Debate/contested
  • Theoretical physics

Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests that matter falling into a black hole could be superheated to a point where it escapes the gravitational pull and contributes to star formation in the galaxy.
  • Another participant emphasizes the speculative nature of the original post and encourages the author to study established astrophysics before proposing new theories.
  • A different participant acknowledges the speculative nature but suggests that as long as the original poster is willing to learn, the discussion can continue, while advising caution regarding non-standard theories.
  • One participant draws a parallel between the original idea and the concept of frame dragging, suggesting it may relate to the original poster's thoughts.
  • The original poster defends their speculative idea, arguing that theoretical physics often involves trial and error and that speculation can drive scientific inquiry.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express disagreement regarding the validity of the original speculative idea. While some acknowledge the value of speculation in science, others caution against it without established evidence. No consensus is reached on the plausibility of the proposed theory.

Contextual Notes

Participants reference the importance of established scientific models and caution against non-mainstream theories. The discussion highlights the tension between speculative ideas and the need for empirical evidence in scientific discourse.

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First let me start by saying thank you for taking the time to read this. On watching a program on the bbc relating to black holes and the comparison to a waterfall it got me thinking if matter was to fall through a black hole and be supper heated as it reaches the center if this is the case why can't the matter be heated to a point that it is no longer affected by the gravitational pull of the event and is then re dispersed into our galaxy to reconfigure into gasses for new stars to form. Just a thought what if the black hole centered at each galaxy was like a centrifuge the spinning of the black hole is what spins our galaxy and consequently creates gravitational pull over each galaxy it inhabits. Thank you please comment
 
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jsradad, Welcome to Physics Forums!

You have not read the rules here. They are at the very top of every page...just click on "rules". If you had read them, you would not make such an "overly speculative post".

QUOTE: " It is against our Posting Guidelines to discuss, in the PF forums or in blogs, new or non-mainstream theories or ideas that have not been published in professional peer-reviewed journals or are not part of current professional mainstream scientific discussion. Non-mainstream or personal theories will be deleted."

So, before this whole thread gets deleted, may I make a suggestion? Study some real astrophysics textbooks about black holes and galaxy dynamics. Then, when you have some doubt about a process or mechanism, come back here and post your question. I guarantee folks will be glad to assist you to understand real astrophysics.

Bobbywhy
 
While Bobby is correct in that too much speculation is normally not allowed, as long as the OP is willing to learn I don't think we'll have a problem. Unfortunately Jsradad, nothing in your post is anything like how the universe works. Before asking "what if" questions I highly recommend learning more about the topic. There are many sites available online that will help you to learn the standard scientific models. My best advice beyond that is that if you come across anything that has no observable evidence just ignore it for now as it will only confuse you.This includes many of the non standard theories such as String Theory, M-Theory, and others. Here's a few links to look at:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_relativity
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_hole
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metric_expansion_of_space
http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/hframe.html
http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/astro/bhocon.html#c1
 
jsradad, Your comparison of a black hole centered at each galaxy being like a centrifuge, the spinning BH is what spins our galaxy, etc. reminds me of Frame Dragging. Read about it here and see if perhaps it fits with your ideas:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frame-dragging
 
Let me just say thank you to the people that have commented. As i said it is a theory and physics has a whole department surrounding theoretical physics as for reading more on black holes this again is based on theoretical physics the question that surrounds black holes is one that i have spent time on and just because this has not been published or researched does not take any value away from the idea that i have as with most science it is trial and error and unless this has been debunked i would like to further researched and try to gather some evidence to prove or disprove that this could be a plausible theory. Please don't forget that the once late great Albert Einstein came to the conclusion that black holes could not exist in our galaxy also sometimes speculation is a good fuel for science without it would we bother to try prove or disprove theory's.
 

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