Could Dark Energy be Caused by a Slow Shift in the Base State?

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The discussion revolves around the concept of dark energy and whether it could be attributed to a slow shift in the base state of quantum fields. Participants explore the implications of zero point energy and the observed vacuum energy, considering both theoretical and observational perspectives.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests that the observed vacuum energy might result from a slow shift in the base state of quantum fields, despite the base state being defined as the lowest possible energy state.
  • Another participant emphasizes the uncertainty surrounding dark energy, stating that many possibilities could explain it and encourages calculations to explore these ideas further.
  • A later reply expresses a personal struggle with understanding the topic but acknowledges the importance of asking questions, regardless of their perceived validity.

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Participants express differing views on the nature of dark energy and the validity of the proposed idea regarding the shifting base state. There is no consensus on the question posed, and the discussion remains unresolved.

Contextual Notes

Participants acknowledge the limitations of current knowledge about dark energy and the need for further calculations and observations to explore the proposed hypothesis.

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I was thinking about the dark energy. On one side we have people that calculate huge amount of so called zero point energy, due to the fact that the base state of quantum fields have non-zero energy. And there are other people who look through the telescopes and measure a very small vacuum energy. We know that the base state is the lowest possible state, so we cannot expect that it will have any effect, but there is effect.

My question. Is it possible that the observed vacuum energy is a result of a very slow shift of the base state?
 
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C'mon, any answer?

OK. I'll help. Pick a number.

1. What a stupid question!
2. I don't know.
3. I don't care.
4. I don't understand the question.
5. Yes
6. No
7. (free text)

Picking 7 requires explanation, for others any explanation is welcome, but not necessary.
 
I think the correct answer is "shut up and calculate." Right now, so little is known about the nature of dark energy, that almost anything *could* be dark energy. But if you want to propose something, it's up to you to calculate and see what the results would be.

I don't know the subject well enough to understand the question 100%, so if somebody has already excluded your possibility, ignore this post. If it hasn't been excluded yet, start calculating a shifting base state and see what happens.
 
Jack21222 said:
I think the correct answer is "shut up and calculate." Right now, so little is known about the nature of dark energy, that almost anything *could* be dark energy. But if you want to propose something, it's up to you to calculate and see what the results would be.

I don't know the subject well enough to understand the question 100%, so if somebody has already excluded your possibility, ignore this post. If it hasn't been excluded yet, start calculating a shifting base state and see what happens.
I suppose you are correct. But you see, I'm in the process of learning things. I'm still far away from the ability to do more than "shut up". And I'm even further away from the ability to make the necessary observations to collect the necessary data. However that does not help to suppress the ability to generate questions, no matter how stupid they may be. So, I decided to share my total cluelessness. I hope it is not wrong to do so.
 

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