Could Dark Energy Be Explained by Gravitons?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the concept of dark energy and its potential connection to gravitons, exploring theoretical implications and the nature of dark energy in the universe. Participants examine various hypotheses regarding the origin and characteristics of dark energy, its relationship with gravitons, and the implications for cosmological models.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Debate/contested
  • Conceptual clarification
  • Theoretical development

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants propose that dark energy could be explained as the energy of a large number of gravitons emitted by photons as they travel through space.
  • Others argue that dark energy is a distinct concept from the cosmological constant and is defined as a hypothetical energy evenly filling the universe.
  • One participant suggests that the origin of dark energy remains a mystery and is used to explain antigravity forces in an inflationary universe.
  • Another viewpoint discusses the possibility of cyclical universes and questions the necessity of singularities in cosmological models.
  • Some participants express uncertainty regarding the dimensional aspects of space and how they relate to the concept of closest points in various dimensions.
  • A later reply challenges the idea of 'closest points' in space, suggesting that there is always a point in between any two points.
  • One participant introduces the idea of dark energy as potentially being related to anti-gravitons, linking it to the behavior of photons.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express multiple competing views regarding the nature and origin of dark energy, with no consensus reached on the relationship between dark energy and gravitons or the implications for cosmological models.

Contextual Notes

Some claims depend on unresolved assumptions about the nature of gravitons and dark energy, and the discussion includes speculative ideas about cyclical universes and dimensionality that are not universally accepted.

  • #31
Antonio Lao said:
Isn't this just some sort of three superdimensional concept?

Its four of space and one of time.

No it includes GR and QM. From a supersymmetrical state for sure, but it can be derived from the metric to supermetric points of supergravity


The degree of freedom (dof) for each dimension, I am associating it with the number of closest neighbors for a given spacetime point. 2 dof for 1D, 4 dof for 2D, 6 dof for 3D, 8 dof for 4D, 10 dof for 5D, 12 dof for 6D, 14 dof for 7D, 16 dof for 8D, 18 dof for 9D, 20 dof for 10D, etc.
I am not sure I understand this.

I don't agree with the string theorists that dimension can be compacted. For me, compactification deals with size and shape not with motion. I am concentrating my efforts on understanding how and why space can be attributed with motion. What I have found out so far is that I can only do this with 1D space and the things quantized are the directions not the magnitudes of the vector quantities in the theory but this quantization is only at the local infinitesimal region of spacetime, in the neighborhood of one point and its associated closest neighbors. The distance d^2 = m^2 + n^2 + l^2 - (\vec{a} \cdot \vec{r}) t^2 is defined not to the closest neighbors but to the infinite minus closest points points. By itself, the distance, d, shows a hyperbolic geometry. It will take two of this d to form an elliptic geometry of spacetime.

If you considered how photon interaction is affected with the theoretical definition of the graviton( witten must have shown this somewhere) it might have made sense to consider the long and short of the photon?

Even at great distances in the comso we are still talking about the distances of the very small. Do you see what I am saying. That if metric point of GR can be made more supermetrical what are we talking about? The energy is very important here in discribing of that early universe, as well as speaking to the scalable nature of gravity from strong to weak?
 
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  • #32
sol2 said:
the long and short of the photon?

Am I right to say this make sense only for string theory? Long means more energy and short means less energy? But in string theory, gravitons are closed string ( a loop). In my theory of H-plus and H-minus, gravitons are also loops but each graviton is made of a double linked loops. These loops can be linked in two ways, an H-plus way and an H-minus way.
 

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