Could energy be extracted from spacetime expansion?

In summary, the conversation discusses the possibility of extracting energy from the expansion of spacetime. The idea is that by tying two celestial bodies together with a rope, the stretching of the rope due to the expansion of space could potentially convert to energy. However, it is pointed out that the molecular bonds of the rope would not expand with the universe, so the rope would either break or stay the same length. The concept of conservation of energy in relation to the expansion of the universe is also brought up, with the suggestion that once the laws of physics governing the expansion are better understood, a definition of energy that is conserved could be determined.
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Purely theoretically, could it be possible to extract energy from spacetime's expansion?
Like, say, imagine two celestial bodies far away enough so that they are not bound enough by gravity, they get farther away from each other due to spacetime expansion. We tie them to each other with a rope. As they get further apart the stretching of the rope gets converted to energy. Or would the rope itself get stretched in the same scale? Would a rope 1 km long become 100,000 km long due to space expansion without any gain in energy?
 
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The rope would either stay 1km or break, because the molecular bonds holding it together don't expand with the universe. As far as I know, the expansion of space can't actually exert any forces on any objects. Objects just follow geodesics, or you can think of it as inertia carrying them apart. So, if you throw one end of the rope east and the other end of the rope west, and let the rope ends travel apart under their own inertia, eventually, the rope will snap it back or break if you threw them hard enough.

I don't know about the energy question. I'm not sure if the universe's expansion conserves energy, since it keeps creating more dark energy. Since the expansion is presumably determined by some laws of physics, once we understand those physics, we can probably come up with a definition of energy that is conserved.
 

1. What is spacetime expansion?

Spacetime expansion refers to the continuous stretching and expansion of the fabric of the universe. It is a fundamental aspect of the Big Bang theory and is believed to be the reason for the accelerating expansion of the universe.

2. Can energy be extracted from spacetime expansion?

Currently, there is no known way to extract energy directly from spacetime expansion. However, some scientists have proposed theoretical methods such as the Casimir effect and the Penrose process that could potentially harness this energy. However, these ideas are still in the realm of speculation and require further research and development.

3. How does the Casimir effect relate to extracting energy from spacetime expansion?

The Casimir effect is a phenomenon that occurs between two parallel plates in a vacuum, where particles and antiparticles constantly pop in and out of existence. This creates a type of energy that can be harnessed and converted into usable energy. Some scientists believe that this energy may be linked to spacetime expansion, but this is still a topic of debate and research.

4. Can we use the Penrose process to extract energy from black holes?

The Penrose process is a theoretical method for extracting energy from rotating black holes. It involves sending an object into the black hole's ergosphere, where it gains energy from the black hole's rotational energy and is then ejected with a higher energy than it entered with. While this process is not directly related to spacetime expansion, it does involve extracting energy from a gravitational field.

5. Are there any practical applications for extracting energy from spacetime expansion?

At this point in time, there are no known practical applications for extracting energy from spacetime expansion. The energy involved in spacetime expansion is incredibly small and would require advanced technology and understanding to harness. However, further research and development in this field could potentially lead to new energy sources and technologies in the future.

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