Could i construct a small particle accelerator with the resources of

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The discussion revolves around the feasibility of a ninth grader constructing a small particle accelerator, specifically focusing on the types of accelerators, potential legal and safety issues, and the resources available for such a project. The conversation touches on both theoretical and practical aspects of building a particle accelerator.

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  • A ninth grader expresses interest in building a particle accelerator for an independent project, questioning the feasibility given their age and resources.
  • Some participants suggest that while building a particle accelerator is possible, the complexity and legal implications vary depending on the type of particles being accelerated.
  • One participant points out that electron accelerators, such as those found in CRTs, are simpler to construct than those for protons, which involve more technical and legal challenges.
  • Concerns are raised about the potential for ionizing radiation from particle accelerators, which may require regulatory registration depending on the state and the energy levels involved.
  • The original poster considers alternatives like cyclotrons or synchrotrons to avoid legal complications associated with higher-energy accelerators.

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Participants generally agree that constructing a particle accelerator is feasible but disagree on the complexity and legal implications associated with different types of accelerators. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the specific approach the original poster should take.

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Limitations include the lack of clarity on specific legal requirements for building particle accelerators, the varying definitions of what constitutes a particle accelerator, and the potential hazards associated with ionizing radiation.

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a ninth grader? I am a 9th grader in the IB program (International Baccalaureate) and i am deeply fascinated by Michio Kaku and his betatron particel accelerator. I am VERY interested in Physics, especially particle physics. I want to construct a particle accelerator, for an independent project. I would have a lot of resources at my disposal, ( a vacuum pump, etc..) The proposed accelerator would be roughly 4-6 feet in diameter, nothing BIG. Is it even logical for me to attempt this? Or am i reaching for goals too advance for my age? Being in the IB program ( a prep program), i am very smart(not to brag), so i could probably handle the math(with help). Could i do this?


thanks for answering! :smile:
 
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yes, but isn't that a ray tube? not a particle accelerator...(i.e. atom smasher)
 
A lot depends on the purpose of the accelerator. Electrons are particles - hence, particle accelerator. If you are trying to accelerate protons, it's a tad more difficult, not just technically but also legally.

Almost any particle accelerator is capable of producing ionizing radiation. Depending on how much radiation and the energy of the radiation, you might have to register your machine with a state regulatory agency, which, depending on your state, can be both expensive as well as difficult without proper training in the hazards of ionizing radiation.

Now, as Russ said, you can do just as well with a machine (like a tv set which in essence is a type of particle accelerator, albeit an innocuous one) that accelerates electrons, just not to a high enough energy to cause ionizing radiation.
 
daveb said:
A lot depends on the purpose of the accelerator. Electrons are particles - hence, particle accelerator. If you are trying to accelerate protons, it's a tad more difficult, not just technically but also legally.

Almost any particle accelerator is capable of producing ionizing radiation. Depending on how much radiation and the energy of the radiation, you might have to register your machine with a state regulatory agency, which, depending on your state, can be both expensive as well as difficult without proper training in the hazards of ionizing radiation.

Now, as Russ said, you can do just as well with a machine (like a tv set which in essence is a type of particle accelerator, albeit an innocuous one) that accelerates electrons, just not to a high enough energy to cause ionizing radiation.

well, i looke di tup, and i am thinking more along the lines of a cyclotron, or synchrotron...i don't want the legal troubles...
 

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