I Could it be that the Big Bang had no cause?

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The discussion centers on the idea that we have no concrete understanding of the universe before the Big Bang, leading to speculation about the nature of existence beyond it. It raises the possibility that cause and effect may not apply outside the universe, suggesting a state of "nothingness." However, participants emphasize that discussing events beyond observable phenomena veers into metaphysics and philosophy, which are not permitted in the forum. Consequently, the thread was closed due to these considerations. The conversation highlights the limitations of our knowledge regarding the origins of the universe.
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Could it be that everything in the universe is described by cause and effect, but we have no reason to believe that cause and effect remains valid outside of the universe?
Everything that I’ve researched into this seems to suggest that we know absolutely nothing about the universe at the beginning of the Big Bang event. Could it be that just nothing is there? Could everything in the universe be described by cause and effect, yet cause and effect does not apply outside of the universe itself?

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donglepuss said:
TL;DR Summary: Could it be that everything in the universe is described by cause and effect, but we have no reason to believe that cause and effect remains valid outside of the universe?

Everything that I’ve researched into this seems to suggest that we know absolutely nothing about the universe at the beginning of the Big Bang event. Could it be that just nothing is there? Could everything in the universe be described by cause and effect, yet cause and effect does not apply outside of the universe itself?

Thanks :)
We have no knowledge of “outside of the universe.” Therefore you are asking for baseless speculation.
 
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And more rigorously inline with PF rules, the question of what may or may not have happened at an event we cannot observe is really more about metaphysics and philosophy, which are expressly forbidden topics for this very reason. Sorry, donglepuss.
 
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Frabjous said:
We have no knowledge of “outside of the universe.” Therefore you are asking for baseless speculation.
DaveC426913 said:
the question of what may or may not have happened at an event we cannot observe is really more about metaphysics and philosophy, which are expressly forbidden topics for this very reason.
In the light of these valid comments, this thread is closed.
 

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