Supermassive singularity the cause of the Big Bang?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the concept of whether a supermassive singularity could be the cause of the Big Bang, exploring the nature of singularities, black holes, and Hawking radiation. Participants examine theoretical implications, interactions of particles, and the conditions of the early universe.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Debate/contested
  • Technical explanation
  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants propose that a supermassive singularity could have existed prior to the Big Bang, suggesting interactions between different types of matter or particles as a potential cause of the Big Bang.
  • Others argue that the concept of singularities in the context of the Big Bang differs from that of black holes, emphasizing that general relativity fails in different ways in these scenarios.
  • A participant mentions that black holes are the coldest objects, raising questions about their interaction with the cosmic microwave background (CMB) and the implications for Hawking radiation.
  • There is a discussion about whether the CMB contributes to black holes becoming colder or hotter, with conflicting views on the relationship between black hole temperature and mass.
  • Some participants explore the possibility of observing Hawking radiation before black holes become warmer than the CMB, discussing thought experiments and the challenges involved.
  • Another participant introduces the concept of primordial black holes (PBHs) and their potential impact on the CMB, suggesting limits on their density to avoid disturbing cosmic observations.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express multiple competing views regarding the nature of singularities, black holes, and the effects of the CMB on black hole temperature and evaporation. The discussion remains unresolved with no consensus on several key points.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight limitations in understanding the interactions between black holes and the CMB, as well as the unresolved nature of quantum gravity in relation to these concepts.

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  • #32
Arman777 said:

Equation 1.1? In that equation, ##t# is the time after the Big Bang the the PBH forms; basically the equation is saying that the more time has elapsed since the Big Bang, the larger a PBH formed at that time would be. This is because the more massive a black hole is, the less "dense" it is (where "density" here means "the mass of the black hole divided by the volume of a Euclidean 3-sphere with a surface area equal to the black hole's horizon area"--which is not the actual physical density of the hole, since a black hole doesn't have a well-defined density, but plays the role of a density in the authors' proposed model for PBH formation).
 
  • #33
PeterDonis said:
his is because the more massive a black hole is, the less "dense" it is
I did no understand this part.
 

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