Could Sirius A/B Trigger a Supernova?

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The discussion centers on the potential for the Sirius A/B binary system to trigger a supernova, specifically a type Ia supernova. Participants explore the characteristics of the stars involved, their distances, and the implications of their interactions, as well as the role of any additional bodies that may influence their orbits.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants note that type Ia supernovae typically arise from main sequence/white-dwarf binary systems, questioning whether Sirius B, a large white dwarf, could go supernova given its current conditions.
  • There is speculation about the possibility of an additional body influencing the orbits of Sirius A and B, which could potentially lead to Sirius B falling into Sirius A and triggering a supernova.
  • One participant expresses skepticism about Sirius B becoming a type Ia supernova, arguing that it lacks a red giant companion, which is considered necessary for mass accretion.
  • Another participant raises questions about the current orbital relationship between Sirius A and B, seeking clarification on whether Sirius B is moving away from or towards Sirius A.
  • References to external resources are provided by participants to support their points and to explore the topic further.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the likelihood of Sirius B triggering a supernova, with some suggesting it is possible under certain conditions, while others argue it is unlikely due to the absence of a suitable companion star and the current distance between the two stars.

Contextual Notes

Participants acknowledge uncertainties regarding the dynamics of the Sirius binary system and the influence of potential external bodies, as well as the specific conditions required for a type Ia supernova to occur.

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I understand that main sequence/white-dwarf binary systems are the cause of type Ia supernovae. Is it possible that the Sirius A/B system could go supernova? The white dwarf, Sirius B, is an unusually large dwarf, about 1 solar-mass. While Sirius A is a 2.1 solar-mass main sequence star. The orbital radius is rather large, about 20au. So it seems there would be no ability of material to be sucked from A to B to make it go supernova. But some seem to think that there is another body in orbit with them that has perturbed Sirius B in the past. What would happen if this caused Sirius B to fall into Sirius A? Would there be a supernova in that case? Thanks.
 
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Interesting question. Here is a discussion on the subject.

What are the progenitors of the supernova type 1A explosion?
http://www.astro.rug.nl/~onderwys/ACTUEELONDERZOEK/JAAR2001/jakob/aozindex.html
 
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Astronuc said:
Interesting question. Here is a discussion on the subject.

What are the progenitors of the supernova type 1A explosion?
http://www.astro.rug.nl/~onderwys/ACTUEELONDERZOEK/JAAR2001/jakob/aozindex.html

Does anyone know where Sirius B is right now in relation to Sirius A? Is B at present visibly orbiting away from A? Or is it eclipsing, or headed into A? Thanks.
 
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I'm sure someone has a model or simulation of the Sirius binary system. It certainly is getting a lot of attention. Somewhere I read a comment that the Sirius binary system is surrounded by an Oort-type cloud system, so presumably there are nearby masses which perturb the orbits of the stars.

Meanwhile -

http://mintaka.sdsu.edu/faculty/quyen/node1.html

http://www.star.le.ac.uk/wd/wd/current.shtml
 
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Unlikely Sirius B will go SNIa. SN1a's progenitor stars are believed to be white dwarfs - which Sirius B is. The fuel source is believed to be a red giant companion star - which Sirius A is not. Albeit Sirius A will likely [not soon enough to worry about] evolve into one. The other factor is distance. It appears Sirius B is too distant from its future RG companion to accrete mass in the manner believed necessary to put on a really big show:

http://www.astronomycafe.net/qadir/ask/a11207.html
 

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