Could the source of dark energy be our parent black hole feeding?

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The discussion explores the hypothesis that dark energy might be linked to the feeding of a parent black hole, particularly in the context of entangled black holes and their potential role in creating spacetime. The conversation touches on theoretical implications and speculative ideas surrounding the nature of the universe and dark energy.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests that if we are part of black-hole-created spacetime, the mass/energy from feeding black holes could inflate our spacetime, similar to the effects attributed to dark energy.
  • Another participant counters that observational data supports an infinite universe, implying that we cannot be inside a black hole.
  • A different viewpoint criticizes the notion of living inside a black hole as entertainment rather than a serious scientific proposition.
  • Concerns are raised about the mechanisms of creating spacetime and linking the feeding of black holes to dark energy, with a suggestion that dark energy scales with the universe's size rather than the number of black holes.
  • One participant requests a reference for the claims about entangled black holes creating spacetime, expressing skepticism about the terminology used.
  • Another participant asserts that we are not inside a black hole, challenging the premise of black hole-created spacetime.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express multiple competing views, with significant disagreement on the plausibility of the original hypothesis regarding dark energy and black holes. The discussion remains unresolved, with no consensus reached.

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Limitations include the speculative nature of the claims about black holes and dark energy, as well as the lack of references to support certain assertions made during the discussion.

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If the creation of our spacetime is linked to a parent black hole, it seems that it might be possible that the source of our dark energy might simply be due to our parent black hole being in a feeding cycle.
About a year ago, I heard Leonard Susskind discussing how entangled black holes could create spacetime. As I was listening to Prof. Susskind describe the mechanisms for creating entangled black holes, and how these black holes might create their own spacetime, it occurred to me that if we were part of black-hole-created spacetime, and if our parent black holes were feeding, the mass/energy that they were devouring might inflate our spacetime - just as we detect that dark energy is (or was) doing.

Since then, I am aware of others that suggest that we might live inside of a black hole. There's even a PBS Space Time episode "Could the Universe Be Inside a Black Hole?"

Is this a plausible possibility that our dark energy is due to a feeding cycle of our parent black hole?
 
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Aren't the observational data favoring infinite universe? Hence we can not be inside a black hole.

Bob Walance said:
if we were part of black-hole-created spacetime, and if our parent black holes were feeding, the mass/energy that they were devouring might inflate our spacetime - just as we detect that dark energy is (or was) doing.

Personal speculation.
 
Bob Walance said:
Since then, I am aware of others that suggest that we might live inside of a black hole. There's even a PBS Space Time episode "Could the Universe Be Inside a Black Hole?"
That’s not real physics, it’s entertainment. Watching this stuff is fun, but it doesn’t work as a way of learning any physics.
 
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Bob Walance said:
Is this a plausible possibility that our dark energy is due to a feeding cycle of our parent black hole?
No, almost certainly not. For starters, how do you create spacetime, how do you 'inflate' it with the positive energy of regular matter, and how would this feeding mechanism be linked to dark energy, given that dark energy is thought to scale with the size of the universe*, not the number of black holes?

*More like distance between objects and the density of the universe.
 
Bob Walance said:
About a year ago, I heard Leonard Susskind discussing how entangled black holes could create spacetime.
Where? Please give a reference.

Bob Walance said:
if we were part of black-hole-created spacetime
We aren't. "Black hole created spacetime" (which is a very poorly chosen phrase, if Susskind is referring to what I think he's referring to) is inside a black hole. We're not inside a black hole.
 
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Thread will stay closed by the request of the OP. He realizes that it is a bit too speculative for PF, since he is not able to find the original reference. Thanks @Bob Walance
 

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