Coulomb's Law and spheres Problem

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Homework Help Overview

The problem involves determining the optimal charge transfer between two spheres to maximize the electrostatic force between them, framed within the context of Coulomb's Law.

Discussion Character

  • Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to differentiate the force equation derived from Coulomb's Law but encounters difficulties in obtaining a non-zero derivative. Some participants question the differentiation process and suggest clarifying the variable with respect to which the differentiation is performed.

Discussion Status

The discussion has progressed with the original poster realizing a correction in their approach to differentiation. There is an ongoing exploration of whether there are general rules regarding when to factor in the differentiation process, with some participants providing insights into the equivalence of different forms of the function being differentiated.

Contextual Notes

Participants are navigating the nuances of differentiation techniques and their implications for solving the problem, without reaching a definitive conclusion on the optimal charge transfer ratio.

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Homework Statement



Of the charge Q initially on a tiny sphere, a portion q is to be transferred to a second, nearby sphere. Both spheres can be treated as particles. For what value of q/Q will the electrostatic force between the two spheres be maximized?

Homework Equations



(k)(q1q2)/r^2

The Attempt at a Solution



I posted a similar problem concerning an electric field some time ago, and am attempting to use the same solution, that is, taking the derivative of the equation I end up with, but the derivative ends up being zero for me. I end up with:

k(Q-q)q / r^2

And then after factoring out k/r^2, I'm left with just (Q-q)q. I tried doing a derivation using the product rule, but I just end up with zero. When I try to derive this, I get:

1 * (1-1) + (Q-q) which just leaves me with Q - q, which is not the answer. What am I doing wrong?
 
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You differentiated the equation with respect to...?
 
Ah nevermind, upon multiplying the q back into the (Q-q) and then deriving, I get the correct answer. However, can it be said as a rule of thumb that you should factor AFTER taking the derivative, or are there situations where you should factor beforehand?
 
neutrino said:
You differentiated the equation with respect to...?

Basically I used df/dq.
 
frankfjf said:
However, can it be said as a rule of thumb that you should factor AFTER taking the derivative, or are there situations where you should factor beforehand?

There's no difference between: [tex]\frac{d}{dq}\left(q(Q-q)\right)[/tex] and [tex]\frac{d}{dq}\left(qQ-q^2\right)[/tex], and this holds true no matter what kind of functions are in the product. (They should be continuous of course.)
 

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