Covert hypnosis? How do you protect yourself from it?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the concept of covert hypnosis and its potential use in manipulative situations, particularly in the context of crime and social engineering. Participants explore ways to protect oneself from being hypnotized or manipulated without consent, touching on techniques used by hypnotists and con artists.

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  • Exploratory
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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants express concern about covert hypnosis being used in criminal activities, suggesting that awareness and knowledge of techniques can help individuals avoid manipulation.
  • There are references to Derren Brown's performances as examples of suggestibility techniques, with suggestions to analyze his methods to recognize similar tactics in everyday interactions.
  • Participants mention the concept of "anchors" from NLP as a way to understand how suggestibility works.
  • One participant cites Kevin Mitnick's views on social engineering, emphasizing that manipulation often relies on psychological tactics rather than technical hacking.
  • A list of cognitive biases that can make individuals susceptible to manipulation is provided, highlighting traits such as being too trusting, too altruistic, or too impulsive.
  • Historical context is given regarding the term "confidence man," illustrating how manipulation has been a long-standing issue.
  • Specific examples of tricks used by con artists, such as the wallet trick demonstrated by Derren Brown, are discussed, focusing on the psychological techniques involved in establishing trust and rapport.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the existence of covert hypnosis and its implications, but there are multiple competing views on the effectiveness of various protective strategies and the extent of the threat posed by such manipulation.

Contextual Notes

Some claims rely on anecdotal evidence and personal interpretations of psychological concepts, which may not be universally applicable. The discussion includes a mix of theoretical and practical considerations without resolving the complexities involved in the topic.

  • #31
That's an interesting test list, zooby, because it sounds similar to the check-list run through by every stage magician I've ever seen perform. We had a stage hypnotist perform at one of our corporate Christmas parties, and the people from my office who participated were a) hams and uninhibited to begin with and b) reported afterwards that they were in a light trance state at the beginning of the performance but it didn't sustain throughout, even though they continued to participate. Again, all anecdotal.

The private sessions I attended that had a definitive purpose, no, didn't feature any of that "responsiveness" chart testing. I've watched documentaries discussing more modern testing involving hypnosis that's applied for practical purposes. It strikes me, though, that beliefs about hypnosis in 1938 may be out of date and fairly antiquated.

But a straight answer to your question: no, there was no suggestibility assessment administered.
 
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GeorginaS said:
But a straight answer to your question: no, there was no suggestibility assessment administered.

How do you think you'd rate, say on #9? If the hypnotist directed you to hear the sound of a fly buzzing, would you be able to hear that so vividly it would be indistinguishable from a real fly?
 
  • #33
zoobyshoe said:
How do you think you'd rate, say on #9? If the hypnotist directed you to hear the sound of a fly buzzing, would you be able to hear that so vividly it would be indistinguishable from a real fly?

I can't answer that because he didn't make any attempts at redirecting my attention or calling my attention to external stimulus.

The best way that I can describe the hypnosis that I participated in was him aiding me in relaxing to the point of achieving a meditative state (now, please, I'm not being literal, here, I'm simply using words that I think can illustrate the situation) and, once I achieved that state, he then had a discussion with my "subconscious mind" to help me with behaviour modification. Once we were finished, I haven't ever experienced such an intense feeling of internal warmth and satisfaction and comfort and general sense of well being. And the behaviour modification worked, too.
 

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