Creating a Low-Friction Box with Magnetic Tracks

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the design of a low-friction box with a movable wall, specifically exploring the feasibility of using magnetic tracks for the wall's movement. Participants consider various mechanisms to minimize friction while addressing practical constraints such as speed, weight, and airtightness.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests creating a magnetic track for the wall to slide on, referencing a maglev train project as inspiration.
  • Another participant raises concerns about the added weight of magnets potentially affecting the speed of movement.
  • There is a mention of the possibility of using diamagnetic levitation, though its practicality is questioned.
  • A participant notes that rapidly accelerating magnets might induce unexpected magnetic fields, which could complicate the design.
  • Participants inquire about specific design constraints, such as the desired speed of movement and the dimensions of the wall.
  • Ultimately, one participant decides to abandon the magnetic approach in favor of using ball bearings and drawer sliders for the wall's movement.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing opinions on the feasibility and effectiveness of using magnetic tracks, with some supporting the idea while others highlight potential complications. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the optimal method for achieving low friction in the design.

Contextual Notes

Participants note limitations related to the weight of the moving components, the need for airtightness, and the specific speed and size requirements of the box, which may affect the proposed solutions.

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Hello all,

This is my first post here, so please let me know if I'm not in the right section, as I wasn't 100% sure if this was the right place.

I'm making a box that can change volume quickly with an actuator for a small project.
But I need to minimize the friction in moving the wall of the box.

Is there a way to make a magnetic track for the wall to 'slide' on? I don't mind if there are boards sticking out the back of the 'wall' to help balance it (I was going to put wheels on it originally), I just need the inside of the box to be box-like.
I've seen small projects like this:
http://www.miniscience.com/kits/maglev/train.html

What if I basically made a track for the wall like that, placed magnets on the right and left so that it wasn't touching the sides, and pushed it? Would it get stuck?

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Is there a way to maybe produce two rails that could attach to the wall that would have nearly no friction? Like below?

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Thanks!
 
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Hi RetroSpectrum7, http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/5725/red5e5etimes5e5e45e5e25.gif

Attaching magnets will increase the mass of the moving side; is that likely to upset your plans that movement be speedy? How heavy is the moveable side?
 
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... it also won't be air-tight.

There's all sorts of stuff you can do with magnets - like you could exploit diamagnetic levitation. You pic of the railing looks interesting - just rotate the inner 45 degrees.

There's something nagging the back of my mind about rapidly accelerating magnets inducing funny fields meaning it may be counter productive.

The simple answer to your question:
Is there a way to make a magnetic track for the wall to 'slide' on?
... is "yes", there are lots of ways.

But I'm with NascentOxygen - it could be counterproductive.
I'm not sure you are addressing your design constraints - how fast do you want to move the wall? What are your energy restrictions? How big is this wall? ... and so on.
 
The box should be 3 foot x 3 foot on the open side.
I suspected that might be the case, that it might not be something I could do effectively without making things more difficult.

Thank you guys for the response, I'm going to give this one up and go with some ball bearings, and mount the box's wall on some drawer sliders instead.
 

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