Critical Buckling Load: Bend or Buckle?

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The discussion revolves around the concept of critical buckling load in columns, specifically whether this load represents the force that initiates bending or leads to catastrophic failure. Participants explore the relationship between axial force, bending, and buckling, as well as experimental approaches to determine critical buckling loads.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest that critical buckling load can be interpreted as the force leading to catastrophic failure, while others argue it may also refer to the initial large lateral deformations preceding failure.
  • One participant describes an experimental setup involving an aluminum column tested in compression, raising questions about how to calculate the critical buckling load from strain data.
  • Another participant questions whether the highest value of load before buckling can be considered the critical buckling load.
  • Concerns are raised about the lack of sufficient data to determine the exact buckling point, with suggestions to calculate a minimum buckling load based on available data.
  • A participant proposes that buckling may occur when opposing strains on the column become opposite in sign, indicating a potential buckling point around a specific load value.
  • There is a discussion about discrepancies in calculated values of critical buckling load based on different assumptions and parameters, including effective length factors.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the definition of critical buckling load or the methods to determine it from experimental data. Multiple competing views and interpretations remain throughout the discussion.

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Limitations include the dependence on specific assumptions about the column's geometry and loading conditions, as well as the need for accurate data to determine the critical buckling load effectively.

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In Euler's equation is the critical buckling load the force that will initiate a bend in the column, or is it the force that leads to catastophic failure.

If we start with the initial assumption that there is some lateral force due to system imperfections to initiate the buckling. It seems an infinitely small axial force causes an infinitely small bend, and a moderate axial force causes a moderate bend that is stable and the member returns to its original shape when the force is removed. Does a coulmn "bend" before it "buckles"? Has buckling occurred if the column springs back after the load is removed, or have we not yet reached the critical buckling load?
 
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Hi JayPee, welcome to PF. Buckling is sometimes used to describe the catastrophic failure phenomenon, and sometimes the preceding occurrence of large, nonlinear lateral deformation of some part of the structure. (Small, linear lateral deformations, however, do not constitute buckling.)

If the load is sustained, buckling will generally lead to failure; however, it's also possible for a material to buckle without failing if the accompanying compression relieves the load.

Does this answer your questions?
 
I have a small problem with a column buckling experiment I've conducted. The rig consisted of an aluminium member tested in compression using an Instron loading machine. Strain gauges were placed on both sides of the member and a computer recorded values of strain at various compressive loads between 0 and 600N. The properties of the member are listed below:

length: 500mm
width: 20mm
thickness: 4.29mm
Young's modulus: 52.4 GPa

The member is actually pin-ended, but for all intents and purposes, it can be considered as fixed at both ends because the joints are quite rigid. The Euler buckling load is therefore

P = \frac{4\pi^2EI}{l^2}

as far as i understand. The value of P that I get from this equation is 1015.0 N.

Having calculated the theoretical buckling load of the member, I need to check this against the actual buckling load. All I have is Hooke's law (P = EA\epsilon) and a load of different values for strain. I have used Hooke's law to calculate a value of P for each value of strain, but I don't see how this helps...

Basically, I need the critical buckling load, but I don't know how to calculate it from experimental values of strain. Can anyone help?

Thanks
Rhys
 
Isn't the highest value of P before buckling the critical buckling load?
 
Well yes, but I only have a very small amount of data, so I can't determine exactly when the member starts to buckle. I know I have to use Hooke's law, but I don't know how to implement it... Is there a graph I can plot that would clearly show when the member buckles?
 
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If you don't have any type of data (from the loading machine or the strain gauges) corresponding to the buckling point, I'm not sure how you'd determine the critical buckling load. You could calculate a minimum buckling load, I suppose, from the last data point, but it would be impossible to say how close it is.
 
Here's all the data I have:
(SG1 and SG2 are the strains recorded on each side of the beam)

Compressive Load (kN)..SG1 (µStrain)...SG2 (µStrain)
0........-0.04374...-0.63108
0.047......-8.88919...-11.52479
0.106......-13.40135...-33.98217
0.15......-17.01924...-49.0698
0.207.....-19.19852...-73.82884
0.245.....-19.89741...-89.66715
0.294.....-19.77105...-112.4289
0.346.....-14.35199...-141.75526
0.401.....-10.95378...-168.79844
0.444.....-12.06381...-195.79951
0.502......15.95878...-248.28922
0.542......75.93387...-328.41915
0.599......219.3245...-496.27437

Is it possible to determine the buckling load from this?
 
How did the geometry of the member change during loading? I would say that buckling occurs at around 0.5 kN because the opposing strains become opposite in sign. One side of the beam experiences compressive strains while the other side experiences tensile strains. Someone with more hands-on experience with strain gauges can probably give you a better answer.
 
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rdt24 said:
Here's all the data I have:
(SG1 and SG2 are the strains recorded on each side of the beam)

Compressive Load (kN)..SG1 (µStrain)...SG2 (µStrain)
0........-0.04374...-0.63108
0.047......-8.88919...-11.52479
0.106......-13.40135...-33.98217
0.15......-17.01924...-49.0698
0.207.....-19.19852...-73.82884
0.245.....-19.89741...-89.66715
0.294.....-19.77105...-112.4289
0.346.....-14.35199...-141.75526
0.401.....-10.95378...-168.79844
0.444.....-12.06381...-195.79951
0.502......15.95878...-248.28922
0.542......75.93387...-328.41915
0.599......219.3245...-496.27437

Is it possible to determine the buckling load from this?

Take a look at the plot of these points and see what you can infer.

CS
 

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rdt24: From the data plotted by stewartcs, I think we can see a transition at 520 N, very close to the value predicted by Brian_C. I don't know how you computed P = 1015 N (in post 3), because your posted formula gives 1089 N. Regardless, it appears your current effective length factor (k = 0.50) might be inaccurate, and should instead perhaps be k = 0.723. Therefore, using k = 0.723, the buckling load becomes Pcr = E*I*[pi/(k*L)]^2 = (52 400)(131.59)[pi/(0.723*500)]^2 = 521 N.
 

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