Critical density and observable mass

In summary, the conversation discussed the attempt to reconcile the critical density of the universe with the amount of observable matter. The assumptions for critical density were given, as well as the calculation of mass based on these assumptions. The conversation also touched on the number of stars and their contribution to the total mass. The main problem with the analysis was pointed out to be the exclusion of dark energy. The conversation also mentioned the concept of converting density to mass and the role of the Higgs field in mass calculations. The final point made was about a previous question regarding the size of an explosion needed to knock the Earth out of orbit.
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Please comment on my assumptions and results, this has confused me for some time. Thanks

The following is an attempt to reconcile the critical density of the universe with the amount of observable matter as represented by number of stars.

Assumptions for critical density: Hubble constant (H) = 72 km/sec/Mpc or 2.34 x e-18/sec; volume of universe = 9.22 x e84 cm3; cosmological constant = 7.12 x e-30 (from Brian Greene’s Hidden Reality, page 337); and ratio of matter (baryonic) to dark matter is 1 to 5. majority of baryonic matter exists as stars.

Calculation of mass based on critical density : critical density = 3 x H2/(8 x pie x G) = 9.81 x e-30 gm/cm3; density of matter and dark matter = 2.69 x e-30 gm/cm3 (9.81 x e-30 minus 7.12 x e-30); density of matter = .45 x e-30 gm/cm3 (ratio of 1 to 5); mass of both matter and dark matter = 2.47 x e55gm (volume x density); mass of dark matter = 20.6 x e54 gm; and mass of matter = 4.1 x e54 gm.

Assumptions for number of stars: number of galaxies = e11; number of stars per galaxy = 5 x e10; average mass of star = .6 x e33 gm (.3 x sun’s mass).

Calculation of matter based on number of stars: matter = 5.4 x e54 gm.

Thus, using these assumptions the results are reasonably close, 4.1 to 5.4 x e54 gm for matter. When dark matter is included, 2.47 x e55 gm, the result is also close to the e55 gm, which is based on CMB splotches size (stated in Hidden Reality, page 275).
Jim Johnson, Jan 22, 2012
 
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The main problem with your analysis is that you left out the contribution of dark energy. When added into the total, the sum will equal the critical density.

I haven't checked your calculations, but the ratio of total matter density to the critical density looks about right (~ 27%).
 
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Mathman, thanks for your response. I was starting to think my analysis of total energy in the universe was of no interest.
Anyway, I did include dark energy, it is the cosmolgical constant. Thus, the equation, I should have included, is as follows (interms of mass rather than density):
Critical density (90.4 x e54 gm) = matter (4.1 x e54 gm) + dark matter (20.6 x e54 gm) + dark energy (65.7 x e54 gm).
There are so many different assumptions and partial explanations concerning the total energy, I wanted to attempt a clarification.
 
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Working on the basis that the critical density is about 5.5 hydrogen atoms per cubic meter I convereted this to an equal mass of Higgs Boson, using a low end value of 115GeV. The result was 1 Higgs particle per 21 cubic meters. This seemed odd, as it if wasn't enough. Something to do with an imbalance. Wouldn't there be quite a large number of particles or are they all non-existant virtual particles? I read a paper that talked about demonstrating how H-Bosons could decay into dark matter. It had some oddities: chiefly that they took the Hubble Constant as 100 and used the maths to calculate the Higgs as having a mass in the range of 70GeV.

If space is full of energy doesn't that give it a mass. Not literall, but it can be included in the same way that dark energy is. Actually, that brings up a question. How do they add in the mass-energy of a photon? Do they treat that as part of the 4% 'ordinary' matter?

Oh, and please don't respond with comments about how I might as well have converted the density to gold atoms... although I now wonder how much gold that would even be... but gold isn't a fundamental particle for giving mass. That is what makes me curious...

If the Higgs field is always 'on' so to speak... how would that figure into a mass calculation of the universe.

I'll stop now. =D

I once asked my physics teacher how big an explosion it would take to knock the Earth out of orbit. I'm imagining the same look on your faces reading this as he had. He did however tell me that such an explosion would probably blow the planet in half.
 
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If the critical density (9.8 x e-30 gm/cm3, based on H of 72), is divided by the mass of a proton (1.7 x e-24 gm) the result is 5.76 atoms/m3 or 5.76 x e-6 atoms/cm3. Thus, your quote for density is about the same. Converting the critical density mass/cm3 to total mass results in 90.4 x e54 gm.
The CMB total energy is 3.9 x e72 erg (energy density x volume or 4.2 x e-13 erg/cm3 x 9.2 x e84 cm3). Converting this to mass results in .43 x e52 gm. Thus, the critical density mass is in the range of e5 times larger than the mass/energy of the CMB.
I do not know how to calclate the Higgs energy.
 

What is critical density?

Critical density refers to the amount of matter and energy in the universe that is needed for the universe to neither expand nor contract, but remain in a state of stable equilibrium. It is often expressed as a ratio of the actual density of the universe to the critical density, known as the density parameter.

How is critical density calculated?

Critical density can be calculated by using the Friedmann equation, which is a mathematical equation that describes the expansion of the universe. It takes into account the density of matter, radiation, and dark energy to determine the critical density.

What is the relationship between critical density and observable mass?

The critical density is closely related to the observable mass of the universe. Observable mass includes all forms of matter and energy that can be detected and observed, such as stars, galaxies, and radiation. It is estimated that the observable mass of the universe is only about 5% of the critical density, with the remaining 95% being made up of dark matter and dark energy.

Why is critical density important in cosmology?

Critical density is important in cosmology because it helps us understand the overall structure and evolution of the universe. If the actual density of the universe is greater than the critical density, it would lead to a closed universe where the expansion would eventually stop and the universe would collapse. If the actual density is less than the critical density, the universe would continue to expand forever. The critical density serves as a key parameter in determining the fate of the universe.

What happens if the actual density of the universe is not equal to the critical density?

If the actual density of the universe is not equal to the critical density, it would result in either a closed universe (if the actual density is greater) or an open universe (if the actual density is less). In a closed universe, the universe would eventually stop expanding and collapse in on itself, leading to a "big crunch". In an open universe, the universe would continue to expand forever, eventually becoming colder and darker as all energy is dispersed.

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