Cross Section & Mass: Is There a Relation?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the relationship between cross section and mass in the context of dark matter particles, specifically WIMPs (Weakly Interacting Massive Particles). Participants explore whether a general formula exists that connects these two quantities and examine implications for dark matter detection experiments.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested
  • Experimental/applied

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants assert that there is a relationship between cross section and mass, questioning if a general formula exists that links them.
  • Others argue that while cross sections depend on mass for various reasons, no universal formula applies to all processes.
  • One participant notes that the known amount of dark matter implies that heavier particles require fewer particles and thus a lower production cross-section.
  • Another participant elaborates on how dark matter detection experiments model the expected number of dark matter particles based on local density and particle mass, discussing assumptions about dark matter density and velocities.
  • Participants discuss how nuclear recoil energy spectra are derived from velocity distributions and how these relate to the mass of dark matter particles during interactions.
  • There is mention of how experimental uncertainties affect the maximum possible cross-section calculations for different dark matter masses.
  • Some contributions highlight the differences in constraints from direct detection experiments versus collider experiments, noting how each approach estimates cross-sections differently based on their methodologies.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the existence of a general formula relating cross section and mass. Multiple competing views remain regarding the nature of this relationship and the implications for dark matter detection.

Contextual Notes

Participants express uncertainty regarding the assumptions made in modeling dark matter density and velocities, as well as the implications of experimental uncertainties on cross-section calculations. The discussion highlights the complexity of the relationship between cross section and mass, which may vary depending on the specific context of dark matter interactions.

  • #31
Vanadium 50 said:
Ethan Siegel is not a reliable source. On multiple occasions he has made an error, I reported it to him, he acknowledged the error, and then didn't correct it. He writes "sciency entertainment" not science.

In any event, I think this thread can be closed. You asked a question, got an answer, and did not accept the answer. What purpose is there in going around again and again and again?
As a matter of fact I also got into an argument with him about an error, and while he acknowledged the error privately, he didn’t correct it in his blog.
Anyways, that’s besides the point. I didn’t say I didn‘t accept the answer…I am just exploring the issue. I was about to request closing the thread myself, since someone else is extending it unnecessarily.
 
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  • #32
Ranku said:
... since someone else is extending it unnecessarily.

In this case, I thank everybody for their participation and lock the thread.
 
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