Cube Math: How Many Smaller Cubes in a Larger Cube?

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The discussion revolves around determining how many smaller cubes can be drawn within a larger cube of dimensions nxnxn. Participants explore various approaches to calculate the total number of smaller cubes, including specific examples and general formulas. The scope includes mathematical reasoning and combinatorial exploration.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant introduces the problem of counting smaller cubes within a larger cube and provides examples for a 2x2x2 cube.
  • Another participant questions whether the smaller cubes fill the original cube and suggests using divisors to calculate the total for specific values of n, such as 10 and 100.
  • A participant clarifies that while smaller cubes can overlap, they still span the total volume of the larger cube without leaving empty spaces.
  • Some participants propose that the total number of distinguishable cubes can be calculated as ##\sum_{j=1}^n j^3##, with a compact formula of ##(\frac {n(n+1)}{2})^2## for the total count.
  • Further inquiry is made into how many cuboids of size {##i ,j ,k = 1,n##} can be drawn within the larger cube.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

There is no consensus on a single method for calculating the number of smaller cubes, as participants present different approaches and interpretations of the problem. Some participants agree on the formula for counting cubes, while others emphasize the need for clarity in the problem's description.

Contextual Notes

Participants express varying assumptions about the definitions of "filling" the cube and the nature of the smaller cubes, leading to different interpretations of the problem. The discussion includes unresolved mathematical steps and dependencies on definitions.

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Find how many smaller cubes can be drawn in a larger cube of dimension nxnxn.
Here is a mild diversion. Given a cube of dimensions nxnxn, how many smaller cubes can be drawn within it. All cubes are integer dimensions and are drawn on the grid lines if you imagine the larger cube as a 3D graph paper. For example, in a 2x2x2 cube one can draw one 2x2x2, eight 1x1x1's. Try working it out for a 4x4x4 cube. Try and derive the general formula and use it for a 10x10x10 cube. Or a 100x100x100 cube. Have fun.
 
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Do the smaller cubes fill the original cube? If so, you need to get a list of divisors. For n=10, use 1,2,5 to get ##10^3+5^3+2^3##, while for n=100, use 1,2,4,5,10,20,25,50.to get ##100^3+50^3+25^3+20^3+10^3+5^3+4^3+2^3##.
 
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mathman said:
Do the smaller cubes fill the original cube? If so, you need to get a list of divisors. For n=10, use 1,2,5 to get ##10^3+5^3+2^3##, while for n=100, use 1,2,4,5,10,20,25,50.to get ##100^3+50^3+25^3+20^3+10^3+5^3+4^3+2^3##.
All the cubes can be drawn within the bounds of the larger cube. I did not use the word fill because I don't want people to think this is about how many smaller cubes fill the volume. It's not that. In the simple example I gave of the 2x2x2 case, you have 5 possibilities. The 1x1x1's certainly fill the volume. So does the 2x2x2. For larger cubes, you will see smaller cubes overlapping each other but for each size, the total volume will always be spanned by the smaller cubes. There will be no empty spaces. If it helps, think about the problem of how many squares can be drawn within a larger square on graph paper. Some smaller squares can overlap. I hope this helps.
 
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You can draw all the cubes, and if you draw with perspective they are all distinguishable. That gives you n3 cubes of size 1, (n-1)3 cubes of size 2 and so on. If you mean something else you'll need a clearer description.
 
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mfb said:
You can draw all the cubes, and if you draw with perspective they are all distinguishable. That gives you n3 cubes of size 1, (n-1)3 cubes of size 2 and so on. If you mean something else you'll need a clearer description.
That's correct. The answer for how many cubes can be drawn is ##\sum_{j=1}^n j^3##. But this can be put in a more compact form of ##(\frac {n(n+1)}{2})^2 ##. So, in the 4x4x4 case we have a total of 100 and 10x10x10 case we have 3025. The 100x100x100 case gives 25,502,500 possible cubes that can be drawn.

So, the next question is how many cuboids of size {##i ,j ,k = 1,n##} can be drawn in a cube of ##n##x##n##x##n## ?
 
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