Cube root of 6 is irrational. (please check if my proof is correct)

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The discussion revolves around proving that the cube root of 6 is irrational, utilizing a proof by contradiction. Participants explore the implications of assuming that the cube root of 6 can be expressed as a ratio of two integers.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Some participants present a proof by contradiction, starting from the assumption that the cube root of 6 is rational. They discuss the implications of this assumption and the necessary steps to reach a contradiction.
  • Others question specific steps in the proof, particularly the necessity of certain arguments involving Euclid's Lemma and the divisibility of integers.
  • There are inquiries about the conditions under which certain expressions yield integers, particularly in relation to the divisibility of terms involved in the proof.

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The discussion is active, with participants providing alternative perspectives on the proof steps and questioning the validity of certain assumptions. Some guidance has been offered regarding the implications of divisibility and the structure of the proof, but there is no explicit consensus on the best approach yet.

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Participants are considering the implications of the proof in relation to the properties of integers and the nature of rational versus irrational numbers. There is also a mention of how the proof might differ if n were a perfect square, indicating an exploration of broader concepts in number theory.

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Prove that cube root of 6 irrational.

Solution: I am trying to prove by contradiction.

Assume cube root 6 is rational. Then let cube root 6 = a/b ( a & b are co-prime and b not = 0)
Cubing both sides : 6=a^3/b^3
a^3 = 6b^3
a^3 = 2(3b^3)
Therefore, 2 divides a^3 or a^2 * a . By Euclid's Lemma if a prime number divides the product of two integers then it must divide one of the two integers. Since all the terms here are the same we conclude that 2 divides a.
Now there exists an integer k such that a=2k
Substituting 2k in the above equation
8k^3 = 6b^3
b^3 = 2{(2k^3) / 3)}
Therefore, 2 divides b^3. Using the same logic as above. 2 divides b.
Hence 2 is common factor of both a & b. But this is a contradiction of the fact that a & b are co-prime.
Therefore, the initial assumption is wrong. cube root 6 is irrational
 
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pankaz712 said:
Prove that cube root of 6 irrational.

Solution: I am trying to prove by contradiction.

Assume cube root 6 is rational. Then let cube root 6 = a/b ( a & b are co-prime and b not = 0)
Cubing both sides : 6=a^3/b^3
a^3 = 6b^3
a^3 = 2(3b^3)
I don't think you need the step which I bolded. You can just say from the previous line,
a^3 = 6b^3
that 6 divides a^3, and consequently, 6 divides a. So if 6 divides a, there exists an integer k such that a = 6k. Replace in
a^3 = 6b^3
and see what happens.
 
eumyang said:
I don't think you need the step which I bolded. You can just say from the previous line,
a^3 = 6b^3
that 6 divides a^3, and consequently, 6 divides a. So if 6 divides a, there exists an integer k such that a = 6k. Replace in
a^3 = 6b^3
and see what happens.

i did that because i thought Euclid's Lemma was true only for prime numbers.
 
How do you know that (2k^3) / 3 is an integer?
 
I remembered seeing this proof before, so I guess I am not remembering it correctly.

Let's try this:
pankaz712 said:
Now there exists an integer k such that a=2k
Substituting 2k in the above equation
8k^3 = 6b^3
b^3 = 2{(2k^3) / 3)}
Something bothers me about the bolded. Do we know for sure that "(2k^3) / 3)" is an integer? Instead, I would say this:
8k^3 = 6b^3
4k^3 = 3b^3

The LHS contains at least one factor that is even, so the entire LHS is even. Therefore the RHS is even and b^3 is even. Etc., etc.

EDIT: Beaten to it. :wink:
 
eumyang said:
The LHS contains at least one factor that is even, so the entire LHS is even. Therefore the RHS is even and b^3 is even. Etc., etc.

thnx i understood ur method. I have just one more question:

How to prove that root n is irrational, if n is not a perfect square. Also, if n is a perfect square then how does it affect the proof.
 

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