Current-carrying Wire in a Circular Magnet

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The problem involves determining the direction of the force acting on a current-carrying wire situated within a magnetic field, specifically focusing on a circular loop of wire. The context includes concepts from electromagnetism, particularly Lenz's Law and the application of the right-hand rule.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to apply Lenz's Law and the right-hand rule to determine the force direction, expressing confusion about the circular nature of the current. Other participants suggest treating the circular loop as multiple straight segments to simplify the analysis.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with participants exploring different methods to analyze the problem. Some guidance has been provided regarding the treatment of the circular wire as many small straight conductors, which appears to have clarified the original poster's understanding.

Contextual Notes

Participants are discussing the implications of using different rules (right-hand rule vs. left-hand rule) and how the geometry of the wire affects the application of these rules. There is an acknowledgment of the potential confusion arising from the circular configuration of the current.

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Homework Statement


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Determine the direction of the force acting on the current-carrying wire in the magnetic field.


Homework Equations


Lenz's Law


The Attempt at a Solution


This problem confuses me as the current is moving in a circular loop. However, I tried to use Lenz's Law and got the right answer: The direction of the magnetic force is out of the page, but I do not know whether I did the right thing or not.

I used the right hand rule: I put my thumb on the loop in the direction of the current (this is where I am confused since the current moves in the circular loop, not in a straight conductor as I normally do in class). Then my fingers point in the direction of the magnetic field lines. As a result my palm points in the direction of the force, which is out of the page.

Thank you very much for all your help!
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Repeat your usual rule for lots of points on the wire - treat the current and all as being straight just for that point. See if it makes any difference where you use the rule for.

I use the left-hand finger rule myself but the RH-slap is good too.
 
Thank you very much Simon Bridge!

I understand what you mean! It really does not make any difference! I tried treating the loop as many tiny straight current-carrying conductors and it worked! :)
 
No worries - this method (treating as many small straight bits) works for most things and the exceptions are usually pretty obvious. Basically if it looks flat when you zoom in - like with a circle - it'll work.
 

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