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The discussion revolves around the interpretation and manipulation of current signals involving unit step functions and their application in a homework context. Participants are exploring the formulation of these signals and the associated mathematical concepts, including the use of MATLAB for signal processing.

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  • Homework-related
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Main Points Raised

  • One participant presents the equation i(t)=5u(t)+ 3u(t^2) as part of their homework attempt.
  • Another participant questions the ambiguity of the question and suggests that referencing similar problems might provide clarity.
  • A participant notes the absence of a textbook for reference, as their instructor is compiling problems from various sources.
  • One participant claims the initial equation is incorrect but acknowledges that the poster is close to the answer, directing them to a resource for further understanding.
  • Several participants discuss the use of unit step functions and ramps, expressing confusion about the correct formulation and application in MATLAB.
  • There is a mention of the need for the unit step function to control the behavior of ramp functions, emphasizing the importance of defining when a signal becomes active.
  • One participant clarifies that the examples of unit step functions typically involve simple expressions rather than multiples or powers of t.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express varying levels of understanding and confusion regarding the formulation of current signals and the use of unit step functions. There is no consensus on the correct approach or interpretation of the problem, and multiple viewpoints are presented.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight limitations in their understanding of the mathematical concepts involved, particularly regarding the definitions and applications of unit step functions and ramp signals. The discussion also reflects uncertainty about the specific requirements of the homework problem.

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Homework Statement


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Homework Equations


i(t)=5u(t)+ 3u(t^2)

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The question is somewhat ambiguous. Does your textbook provide answers to any similar questions, because that might help figure out what they want. Their answer to question 2.7 might be enlightening.

Your sketch looks more puzzling than the question.
 
My instructor is actually making his own textbook for the course, so we don't have a textbook to reference to this semester. He is cutting problems out of another book and posting them in a PDF for us to work on...no clue what the book is...
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Yes, we are working on Unit Step functions, ramps, and combining signals right now. I am stuck on another part because I am still learning how to use MATLAB. i(t)=u(5t)+u(3t^2)

I am still confused but is this where it becomes a "power function" like A^2/n! ?
Joe
 
JoeMarsh2017 said:
Yes, we are working on Unit Step functions, ramps, and combining signals right now. I am stuck on another part because I am still learning how to use MATLAB.i(t)=u(5t)+u(3t^2)

I am still confused but is this where it becomes a "power function" like A^2/n! ?
Joe
The examples in the article all show that the expression inside the unit step's parentheses is a simple expression such as (t) or (t–4), but no multiples of t, and no powers of t.

So, for example, a ramp starting at t=0 could be described as t • U(t)
and a steeper ramp as, e.g., 10t • U(t)

If the ramp signal is described as just 10t then at times before t=0, i.e., negative time, the ramp function would have a non-zero value. But when we don't want it to be a ramp for negative time we multiply it by the Heaviside step U(t) to indicate the ramp starts at t=0, and before that it is everywhere zero.

Were we to want a signal to not appear until t=4, the unit step needed would be U(t–4).

From wikipedia:
The Heaviside step function, or the unit step function, ... is a discontinuous function whose value is zero for negative argument and one for positive argument.
 

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