Cutting Your Finger: What Happens at the Atomic Level?

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The discussion explores the atomic and subatomic processes involved when a sharp knife cuts through skin, focusing on the mechanics of sharpness, pressure, and atomic bonds. Participants examine the relationship between the knife's edge, the pressure exerted, and the resulting effects on the skin at a microscopic level.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants note that the sensation of touch arises from electromagnetic forces between atoms, which raises questions about what happens at the atomic level when cutting occurs.
  • One participant emphasizes the importance of pressure in the cutting process, suggesting that sharpness is related to the surface area of the knife's edge.
  • Another participant compares the pressure exerted by different shoe types to illustrate how a smaller surface area increases pressure on the skin.
  • Some participants propose that the density of materials affects cutting difficulty, with tightly bound molecules requiring greater force to separate.
  • A participant discusses how a dull knife can still cut due to high pressure from a narrow edge, while a sharper blade increases force per area, making cutting easier.
  • Examples are provided, such as the effectiveness of a new box-cutting knife versus a dull one, highlighting the relationship between blade sharpness and cutting efficiency.

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Participants express various viewpoints on the mechanics of sharpness and cutting, with no clear consensus on the atomic processes involved or the best explanations for the observed phenomena.

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Some discussions involve assumptions about the nature of atomic bonds and pressure without fully resolving the complexities of these interactions. The relationship between material density and cutting effectiveness is also noted but remains nuanced.

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We're all familiar to the fact that when you for example put two fingers together, they aren't really physically touching each other, it's the electromagnetic forces of the atoms from the different fingers resisting each other... which in turn translates to our nerves and finally our brain in the sensation of "touch".
So... if you have a very sharp knife, and cut your finger with it, your skin will burst open and blood will rush out etc. What I wonder is:
What happens in the atomic/subatomic level when the atoms of the blade of the knife comes near the atoms of the finger, which finally destroys atomic bonds in the finger resulting in the skin bursting open and blood rushing out?
 
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russ_watters said:
The pressure of the knife against your skin.
That doesn't answer the question. I've always wondered about the mechanics of sharpness (what makes something exceptionally sharp) and cutting too.
 
ashmanovski said:
when the atoms of the blade of the knife comes near the atoms of the finger, which finally destroys atomic bonds in the finger resulting in the skin bursting open and blood rushing out?
The surface of your finger, not all the atoms are bonded, kind of like sand. There's little rocks, the atoms inside the rocks are connected, but the sand is not one big rock. The pressure of the knife on the sand allows the knife to move through.
 
Mindscrape said:
That doesn't answer the question. I've always wondered about the mechanics of sharpness (what makes something exceptionally sharp) and cutting too.
I think what makes something sharp is just that the surface area of its edge is very small, which means that for a given force on the object, the pressure where it touches your skin will be much greater (pressure being force/area). Think of someone stepping on your foot with the heel of your sneaker vs. with the heel of a high-heeled shoe, the weight is the same but the surface area is smaller in the second case, so the pressure on your skin where the heel pushes on it is greater.
 
Oh, good point. :)

Which would mean that, since it is dependent of pressure, that density also plays a role making it more difficult to cut through dense materials such as Titanium.
 
yes, and let me tweak that a bit...

Mindscrape said:
Oh, good point. :)

Which would mean that, since it is dependent of pressure, that density also plays a role making it more difficult to cut through dense materials such as Titanium.

differing materials have molecules that are more or less tightly bound to each other. if they're very tightly bound (examples might be titanium, as you mentioned, or diamond), it takes a greater force to make them separate.

a dull knife may cut your skin because, though the pressure on the knife isn't very strong but the area it's applied to (the knife-edge) is very narrow, so the pressure (force per area) is still quite high.

a sharper blade has a narrower width across which the force is applied (more kg/cm^2) so it cuts more easily.

another example, varying only one parameter at a time, might be a box-cutting knife that you might use to slice up cardboard boxes. when the blade is new and very sharp, the force per area at the cutting edge is extremely high, letting you slice the boxes up easily.

as the blade wears and becomes "blunter", the force per area drops considerably, making the force required to cut the cardboard much higher.

hope that's a useful "macro" view of the issue for you.
cheers!
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