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The discussion revolves around the quantum mechanics problem involving the spin states of particles, specifically focusing on the eigenstates of the operator \(\hat{S}_{y}\). The participant correctly identifies the eigenstates as \(|+>_{y} = \frac{1}{\sqrt{2}} (|\alpha>_{y} + i|\beta>_{y})\) and \(|->_{y} = \frac{1}{\sqrt{2}} (|\alpha>_{y} - i|\beta>_{y})\). The relative intensities of the "up" and "down" spins are confirmed as 0.82 and 0.18, respectively. The final conclusion emphasizes that each beam has a 50/50 probability distribution, aligning with the expected outcomes in quantum mechanics.

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Homework Statement


The last (8 mark) part of this (also in attachment):
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(very sorry for having to post an image, I spent a good hour trying to tex it in this, but there's something wrong with my parsing in the preview post. anyway...)

Homework Equations


the answer to the penultimate part (the 4 marker) is the "up" spin has 0.82 and the "down" has 0.18 relative intensity.

The Attempt at a Solution


Using [tex]\hat{S}_{y}[/tex]=hbar/2[tex]\sigma_{y}[/tex] you can solve the eigenequation [tex]\sigma_{y}[/tex]|[tex]\chi[/tex]> = [tex]\lambda[/tex]|[tex]\chi[/tex]> to find the eigenstates of [tex]\hat{S}_{y}[/tex] in terms of [tex]\alpha[/tex] and [tex]\beta[/tex]:

|+>y = 1/[tex]\sqrt{2}[/tex] (|[tex]\alpha[/tex]>y + i|[tex]\beta[/tex]>y) and

|->y = 1/[tex]\sqrt{2}[/tex] (|[tex]\alpha[/tex]>y - i|[tex]\beta[/tex]>y)
But these are pretty standard results...
They are the states that spin in the +y and -y directions (please correct me if I am wrong on that). Do I just take y<+|[tex]\alpha[/tex]> and y<-|[tex]\alpha[/tex]>and get the coefficients for the two beams?

Whether or not i then need to multiple by the intensities found in the part beforehand is another question... (I know intensity != probability but it seems sensible?..)

Ultra thanks to anyone who can help -Im revising for my finals :)

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Homework Equations


The Attempt at a Solution

 

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you need to take each of the possible beams in the previous question which have states [tex]\left| \Psi_i \right\rangle[/tex] say and contract them with the +y eigenstate to get a coefficient. The previous intensities can be discarded
 
Thanks, i think I've done it now with your help. Each beam has 50/50 probability as you would expect. thanks again.
 

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